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Thread: A Kakariki and a Macaw/Green Cheek Conure?

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    A Kakariki and a Macaw/Green Cheek Conure?

    Now i am posting this for a friend as she had no idea were to ask this sorta question nor could really find anything on the internet about it.

    She has an 8 week old Kakariki who is very gentle and affectionate yet VERY inquisitive. She's thinking about getting a Hyacinth Macaw too, but not for another few years. She would purchase the bird quite young so she could hand rear it.

    She'd like to know how these two bird species would co operate together. Of course having separate cages away from each other. Could they be out at the same time and play nice? Or should only one bird be out at a time?

    If she can not find a Hyacinth Macaw she is wanting to get a Green Cheek Conure again (She used to own one. But due to some genetic issues the poor thing passed away) Would the conure be a better choice or would it have the same out come?

    I myself own a green cheek and i have heard they don't overly play 100% nice with other birds.

    Much appreciated to those who take the time to look and reply.
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    May i ask one question. Is she in Australia? Becasue you Can not get Hyacinth Macaws here without selling your house. LOL.

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    Thats what i thought, they are quite expensive. But she's been saving up for quite awhile and is continuing to save up for another few more years. She lives in South Australia. But thats not the question ;) Its hard to find online compatibility of parrots XD
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    No parrots of different species should be left together without supervision IF theres a good chance one could bite the beak off another.
    They are tricky creatures because there will be jealousy between them over YOU.

    I would certainly get some advice from some bird people before she commits
    personally I would be doing a trip out to Brookfield Produce to speak to Bree
    She has had companion Conure and Kakariki for many years
    that and her decades of working with them makes any advice I can give look basic and barbaric
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    id say it could be ok. as long as they are always watched over. I know guys with eclectus and green cheeks and they all snuggle up. Handrasied parrots can become quite attacehed to one another, despite the size. Id still love to see her purchase one. Not being MEAN at all, but i know HUGE breeders in AUS and they dont even have them. They have every other macaw, exotic and rare australian parrots. Hyacinth Macaws are REALLY RARE. They are here but they are RARE. Just like th Palm Cockatoo. For what i can understand there is only 1 pair here in AUS and thats at Adelaide Zoo. I will talk to one of my mates this arvo and get there actually status in Australia and let you know what she will be looking at to buy one.

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    Ok spoke to my mate, Hyacinth Macaws are here but not in very big numbers. They should grow numbers over the years. :D So she might become lucky :) i know how much they are worth too but i can not repeat it sorry.

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    Hyacinth macaws, $90,000.00 to a $100,000.00 a young pair. If you introduce the birds slowly to each other and never leave them unsupervised they could be fine. Plenty of mixed species live together and play just fine.

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    Man those are some sweet looking birds! Personally I've never even heard of them before...
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    Kakarikies are from NZ which means i you should never leave them unsupervised, they are super cheeky!! Why dont you suggest a Hahns macaw instead...small and less cost and care. Hyacinth macaws should be kept for breeding anyway, would be a waste to the species to have it as a pet.
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    get a Cyanopsitta spixii, better colour combo with the kak!
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    As others have said, Hyacinths are very rare in Australia, probably around 20 in th ecountry and hence totally unavailable to anyone to keep as a pet. Tell her to try for a Blue & Gold Macaw if she really wants a large Macaw. Much cheaper - a tenth of the price at around $5000 to $6000. However taking on a large macaw isn't for the faint hearted. Large bird, potentially very destructive, certainly very demanding when kept as a pet, VERY loud, large strong (=expensive) cage needed.

    It likely would co-exist with a small bird if it had been socialised with small birds as a baby, but don't bank on it - one bite and the kaki's head has gone. We hand raised two in my old shop in Mooloolaba 3 years ago and were able to happily house them in our bird room with other birds with no problems, but they had been raised surrounded by these birds. Two photos below show the mix. However if the Macaws had been housed in isolation until weaned and then brought into the environment we would not have risked it.

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    awwwwwwwww man
    so many alexs!
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    Quote Originally Posted by coolcats View Post
    Hyacinth macaws, $90,000.00 to a $100,000.00 a young pair. If you introduce the birds slowly to each other and never leave them unsupervised they could be fine. Plenty of mixed species live together and play just fine.
    Keep going up mate ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadFishFloating View Post
    awwwwwwwww man
    so many alexs!
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    If you like Alex's then you would enjoy this photo of our collection of pet Alex's waiting for a shower


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    Thanks guys. All i wanted to know if they would co-excisit, i have no idea where she is getting the macaw from, but she well knows the worth and price of them. And i believe if someone wanst to own one as a pet they can XD Im sure they is no law saying they can only be used to breed XD

    But I've already told her not to bother with something so difficult to come buy and expensive. She is possibly just going to settle for another green cheek :D
    We all need to start somewhere, its only the beginning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by avinet View Post
    If you like Alex's then you would enjoy this photo of our collection of pet Alex's waiting for a shower

    The most I have had indoors at once is 6!
    the parents and 4 chicks
    and I wont lie
    I was happy to sell on the chicks when they were good companions
    lol
    they need a lotta attention!

    miss my alexs though
    after I lost my hen
    I needed a break
    havent had a bird in about 6 years now

    just realised how long its been.
    pretty hard on ya when you lose one you have bonded with over the years
    certainly ruined my year when I did.
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    Whether your friend gets one or not I would suggest insurance !!! Would hate to lose all that money
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirandarin View Post
    Thanks guys. All i wanted to know if they would co-excisit, i have no idea where she is getting the macaw from, but she well knows the worth and price of them. And i believe if someone wanst to own one as a pet they can XD Im sure they is no law saying they can only be used to breed XD

    But I've already told her not to bother with something so difficult to come buy and expensive. She is possibly just going to settle for another green cheek :D
    Where to start... there is no law saying you can't have a Hy as a pet however no self respecting aviculturalists with a pair that breeds would sell one as a pet.
    Lol Donny its Brookfield Produce i work at...

    To answer the question, housing different species together is not something I would ever recommend regardless of the fact that I have done it successfully in the past and seen others do it successfully, I have also seen the carnage and heartbreak many more times in the cases where it fails.
    I have had my flighted kakariki inside with clipped nanday conures caged and flighted green cheeks caged and there were many near misses, however the kakariki are so fast that she was gone before they had a chance to bite all her toes off.
    That said the whole situation could have easily ended horribly. Kakariki are not instigators of fights however they do tend to annoy other birds...ad green cheeks are fight enders...

    Proceed with caution!

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    brookdale/brookfield
    heck it was a struggle to get the brook part right!
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    Hyacinths are the ultimate parrots. I used to keep Blue and Golds way back and was once offered to buy a stunning 2 year old Hyacinth for $4k. It was a long time ago though, and it was in Scandinavia :-)
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