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  1. Hahaha another excellent summary from Donny, "deliberately vague"! It doesn't seem a widely distributed product from what i can see so i'm not hugely surprised there isn't much user feedback. Lack of distributor information is less encouraging, but it's not a high ticket item (or brand?) so i'd imagine they're just packaging someone elses chemistry without much real data of their own, let alone published ingredients. Whatever is in it, it's certainly highly refined with almost uniformly even rounded, smoothish granuals, nothing like PhosBan. On a few rare occasions where i have measured my pond's phosphates, its been around 3ppm, edging to 4ppm. I've seen BBA at 1ppm, if not a little under. Nitrates have never been an issue so i consider this primarily a phosphate issue. It sounds like your planted tanks misfortune could be of benefit! I looking forward to pics and more! Was it an algae or real(?) plant? Wait, petite elodia? As in, smaller leaf, more open, woodier but less fragile stems? I have something along those lines, though no idea what it is. Might be related. I haven't tried growing it out though and its currently crowded out in a grow out pond. The net style concept sounds good, as long as it doesn't rot from the inside out. Sadly Donny, it doesn't complicate things nearly as much as i would expect from you! Not nearly enough obscurity and mystery! Are you still in holiday mode or drooling(??!) over super closeup dried Easylife p*rn? Hahaha Glad to see your still alive Donny, it's been just a bit too quiet on the unusual and obscure front!
  2. Haha good luck even if you tried, i found basically 0 info on it online when i hunted a while ago. Like i said, i don't really monitor the parameters of my main pond, where i mostly use it, closely. Instead i use a 'is the black back?' test of my favorite (not!) variety of red algae. It can completely elimate signs of black beard algae live growth, over around 2000 liters, for around 3 to 4 months. Working backwards, it should probably be swapped out after about 10 to 12 weeks for consistancy. My source water is of fairly poor quality and been a pond, there's more gunk than most tanks, so your mileage many vary. So all in all, yes, i think it makes a large difference and hugely friendlier on the pocket than PhosBan and some others i've tried. All that said, if you do end up getting lanthium working smoothly, please sign out long and loud! I'd definately like to learn more about it but i'm not in the right head space at the moment for all the reading and research that using it with a managarie would require.
  3. Ahhhh, all beyond me i'm afraid. Mind you, i seem to have enough competition for calcium so the less leech the better. For now, it seems all a bit complicated, with potential for mischief. I might go back a step to what i had been using, Phos-Nitra. I don't monitor my pond levels religiously, and there is no info on the box as to how much of what does what (or tjat i could find online), but it does seem to be good in my pond for 3-4 months. Not bad for around $15.
  4. I was just rereading that link and alls all still a bit double dutch to me. What do you mean in that you stuffed up the reaction Delapool? Did you leave things out? Add extra? What results did you see, if any?
  5. Wow, the chemistry in that link made my head hurt! I've never been good with understanding chemisty abbreviations. They're too much like algebra, and i suck at algebra! It does seem curious to me though that they are using charcoal as part of getting rid of phosphates, when charcoal itself can leech phosphates. Beyond that, i really haven't had the chance to do enough reading on lanthium and how to use it in a fresh water environment to make intelligent comment. In an ideal world, i think small scale experimentation would be the key to not causing genocide, but i'm not set up for that yet. Again, hopefully Donny can give us some more reasoned insight.
  6. I honestly don't know Delapool. I've never heard of that product before. It was interesting to see the statement on their page: "Agent Green*Is*Safe It is important to note there are various formulations of lanthanum chloride. *Some would not be practical for use with livestock.* Agent Green, however, carries no risks to freshwater nor marine life." The whole lanthium side is new to me so i'm still trying to understand it all. Hopefully [MENTION=9246]Donny@ageofaquariums[/MENTION] can help enlighten us all, if he gets some time.
  7. Thanks for your reply TechDen (John?), it is a good suggestion. I had considered contacting Easylife however i must admit that in the age of deny everything and sue everyone, i am somewhat cynical as to what information companies will supply, unless they have researched it, validated the research and its past the lawyer test. I haven't seen any mention of use of Easylife or Voogle with turtles on their site, and i would expect them to be screaming their suitability from mountain tops to a potentially new market. Still, as you say, i have asked everyone else, so there is no harm in trying. I take your point in relation the unknown mystery mix and its possible relation to Macropore. It isn't so much a specific Macropore question as it would also relate to activated carbon, purigen and possibly others. I am highly doubtful Easylife would disclose their secret sauce, but as you suggest, they may be able offer some insite as to the overall effect of absorbant medias on Voogle's effectiveness. Thanks for the suggestions, i'll definatey get in touch with Easylife. Mean time, if anyone has any practical experiences with Easylife and Voogle's use with turtles, i'd be very interested in the feedback. Cheers.
  8. Hi. This is a little off topic so please excuse me, but it seems i may need the help of fish people to find an answer. Does anyone know of any information relating to using Easylife and Voogle with turtles? I have posted this question before and was suggested to try other forums, including AFT, which i did. But turtle people don't seem to know of Easylife or Voogle and i ended up with typical forum responses like, 'I don't use it and everything is perfect'. Helpful. Not. I know turtles and fish are different and turtles don't have these strange things called gills. Nor is their skin as permiable. Where my interest does lay however is in that some turtles can colacially breath so they are potentially taking in more than just a mouthful. Is this good, bad or indifferent? Any info would be appreciated, particularly in relation to using Voogle. On a not unrelated note, aside from decreased effectiveness, is anyone aware of using Voogle with Macropore, in spite of Voogle's instructions to remove absorbant materials? I'd like the vitimins and minerals to try help boost my turtles immune system, but he's a messy, messy boy and i don't want to remove the Macropore. Is there any known harm in doing this or will the overall benefit just be decreased? And yes, i know i seem to be obsessed with Easylife and Voogle. And i am. I find them both to be very good and versitile products. I would rather put effort towards more naturally based, preventative measures than towards cleanup by chemical cocktail down the track. Any thoughts on turtle suitability, please hola. Cheers.
  9. Psst [MENTION=9246]Donny@ageofaquariums[/MENTION] I have a pretty picture or two for you! How close would you like to get? lol The first image is downsampled and sharped in Photoshop from the original. If anyone is particularly insane/sadistic, I may consider making the original TIFF image available for a limited time. Be forewarned however, it is 9600dpi with a resolution of 10248 x 17270. And a filesize a few bytes under 531mb. The second image is a section at the original resolution. It is interesting to see in this, plus other sections of the image, occasional small orangish specks (circled). I would not have expected this based on my understanding of the likely ingredients in Easylife. I am not entirely convinced they are from the Easylife however. They may instead be some contaminate the was in the bowl, water etc. To confirm this, a fresh batch of Easylife, cooked up under better conditions, would be required. If they are actually from the Easylife... Well i'm open to ideas as to what they may be!
  10. Ahhhh, the fun with toys! The protein skimmer has now been up and running in my main pond for several weeks. So far, the protein skimmer is proving quite effective at one thing - catching baby bristlenose! They don't seem to mind, it's all easy food! Unfortunately, as seems to be the case with others, my bubbles are just too big to be causing foaming. Having had a bit of a hunt for info, there seem to be three main options. 1) Add salt, preferably approaching marine levels. 2) Increase the stocking density and/or dirtyness of the water to somewhere akin to a koi pond. 3) Inject ozone into the protein skimmer. I'm thinking my critters aren't going to be super thrilled by either of the first two options, and my wallet not thrilled by the third. Are there any other viable options? I have being considering smaller bubbles. Specifically, i was contemplating if a ceramic disc style co2 diffuser could be hacked into the protein skimmer. Practicalities aside, the most immediate issue i see in doing this would be the pressures involved. From memory, such diffusers need around 1.5 to 2psi which is beyond any air pump i have. Or do they? Those rates are for co2 diffusion. Presumably an oxygen molecule (disregarding other gases in air for a moment) is smaller than a co2 molecule? In which case, it may need lower pressure to permiate a ceramic disc? Not sure on that one. Either way, not a short term solution. The other question which seems pertanent is, is there another happy, handy way to collect lanthium percipitate that i'm perhaps missing? Open to ideas.
  11. Really? That's an interesting thought! I would've expected results from a lab to be much more $$$. For something like the chuck, i don't know if normal tests would reveal much. My understanding of chemistry etc is very limited, though i'm thinking something like a mass spectrometer would be needed for anything even vaugely useful. Of course, a closer look wouldn't be bad either... And i just had a random thought on that...! Stay tuned!
  12. Haha, tis all good [MENTION=885]smicko[/MENTION]! I'm still contemplating (affordable) ways to try and get better close ups of the dry matter. As an aside, demineralised water can also be used to lower overall tds, together with ro and rain water. Not the cheapest option, but seen as Woolies stock it, can be handy for emergencies. Also, re: charcoal, i think it still has it's place, even in the purigen/macropore era. It is even suggested it's used for up to 3 to 4 weeks when starting Ammano style takes. As i recently found however in one of those, "Duh, why didn't i think of that before hand!" moments, it can causes a rapid rise in phosphate levels. Evidentally, some brands (Seachem likes to include themselves among them) leech less phosphate than others, but it's still worth keeping in mind.
  13. Ahhhh Donny, bugga ya for making me move! Lol I did the evaporation over a year ago when i had a seemingly 'endless supply' aka a 5 liter bottle. Had to go hunt for the residue! Amazingly i still have it. Ok, so by happy coincidence i've used bentonite with my pond for patching. And i've handled to much dusty zeolite. On crushing a couple flakes up, my immediate sense is the bentonite. It's not so much sticky as it is adhered to itself, if that makes any sense. It's only with crushing there is a secondary sense of chalkiness which i'd associate with zeolite. If i had to take a guess, i'd be thinking there's more bentonite than zeolite. As far as magnification goes, it's disappointment. The only thing i have is my phone and it can't focus on anything closer than at least 5 meters. See example A and example B. Both the under and upper sides are very noticably pitted however this may be frying pan related. I'm not sure how much the properties for different zeolites vary but i guess with so many types they could all be a bit special. I was really amazed there was so little dry weight to Easylife too. I would've expected at least a couple tablespoons worth. That said, i think the concentration of Easylife is one of it's biggest weaknesses for me. There's nothing like watching most of a 1 liter bottle go bye, bye in a 2000 liter pond. Your brew, with more active ingredients, might be a good answer to that!
  14. Very interesting, thanks smicko! There seem to be a variety of figures floating around. Here: http://www.theaquariumwiki.com/Zeolite It states 1*gram of zeolite will remove 1.5*mg of ammonia. There is also a cautionary note at the bottom of the page: "Never add 'revitaliser' type products to your tank containing Zeolite. These products are salt based and so will release the absorbed toxic ammonia back into the water." From memory, the zeolite used for ammonia is a particular type. The above page provides an appropriate link on sodium aluminosilicate aka clinoptilolite: http://web.archive.org/web/20030807092506/marineland.com/articles/11Clinoptilolite.asp This article states: "Clino does not solely adsorb just ammonia. It will adsorb many cations. A few in order of decreasing preference are: potassium, ammonium, sodium, strontium, copper, calcium, magnesium and iron. The relative concentrations of the adsorbents and their valence determine, to a great extent, which will be removed from the water quicker." My chemistry is rather hazy so i'm not quite sure to make of this. I am in no doubt however that my tank had ammonia with zeolite + salt. Even after 20% water changes, by next day, ammonia was detectable. Remove the zeolite, do a water change, ammonia gone. As to the actual amount of zeolite in Easylife, well that's anyones guess. Seen as your working on your own secret sauce i probably shouldn't say this... But ahhh, what the hell! I sacrificed 100ml of Easylife to curiosity, and hence evaporation. The total dry weight of what was left was around 4 grams. Obviously this wasn't all zeolite. If we believe the theorys as to Easylife's contents, a portion of this would be sodium bentonite. I have no idea on the ratios of these and didn't have means to examine the dry contents further. But it's a start. Someone with a better understanding of the properties of each of these may be better able to guestimate the ratios based on observable outcomes, abolition, abrasion or otherwise.
  15. [MENTION=885]smicko[/MENTION] I'm not entirely sure where your coming from. I've used zeolite a bit and i understand that zeolite by itself only leaches when saturated. But salt causes zeolite to release it's stored ammonia, saturated or not. I have a tank using 4g/L. I knew about salt and zeolite but totally forgot about it before adding the salt! The result was, consistant, 0.5ppm ammonia, until the zeolite was removed. There was well over half a kilo of zeolite so it would've easily absorbed more than 0.5ppm ammonia. I know when recharging zeolite more salt is traditionally used. What i don't know is whether the levels i was seeing where due to that being all the zeolite had absorbed, or whether the amount released was due to the fairly low level of salt. I suspect the latter as some zeolite had remined hidden, tucked away in a canister filter, and yet still released the same level of ammonia. I had discontinued using Easylife in this tank some time earlier for unrelated reasons. I am very much left however with the question, that had i not had zeolite in place, and i was still using Easylife, would i have seen something similar? If we accept the Easylife has zeolite in it, until such time as it clumped, was caught in the filter and removed by cleaning, the answer, at least on paper, seems like it must be yes.
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