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    I came down in a meteor shower 4.2 million years ago....
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  1. Cant believe I missed this thread ..and I've been hunting some chocolates lately just remembering how beautiful they look as adults...a very underrated fish and these and a good pair of Jack Dempsey always win me over...very nice Festae too Foskett96...have to say I'm super jealous you have wild caught chocolates and as you mentioned with a location to boot......hate to say it but...it's like real hobby stuff ...still keen on some chocolates and Andrew had 2 chocolates available...they wouldnt be along the same lines in anyway?...would scoop them up pronto as I'm just making an order currently (only had 2 available and I'm aiming at a pair so haven't put them in the order)...PS can't praise his efforts enough and he will undersell himself to give you the legitimate fish...great great guy and asset in this hobby...we are so lucky for the few true hobbyists in stores that know what they are talking about and want to see this hobby in a great place and protect the limited strains we have...but great news for boosting future genetics and such a beautiful underrated fish Foskett96...as is the burden with many beautiful Americans which don't really show how spectacular they are until adults and average Joe's lack the patience and perseverance to see them reach this stage...ha ha so jealous but really really glad they are in your hands mate and all the best with these beautiful guys...
  2. To keep this short and sweet ... I have a nice group of young adult Eyebiters (group of 5) and they had a dither trio of Saulosi in with them ... (can you guess where this is heading ) so my female eyebiter gets a nice big mouthful (close to 40 so great job mum) but the dominant boy in the eyebiters just didn't seem to have his mojo happening....meanwhile the pain in the butt male Saulosi was always getting jiggy with it and so I think you can see who has most likely fertilised big mummas mouthful...you don't know for sure but the signs lead that way and I have since removed the Salousi..and that's also where the morbid curiousity begins...I really dig eyebiters so it makes it even harder to watch I mean feed the fry knowing in the back of your mind you are probably raising Saulosi x Eyebiter Bubba's.. The breeder in me knows two things...good chance one of my predators is eating hybrids soon....but also that a Saulosi crossed with an Eyebiter is interesting and thats where the morbid curiousity begins!...don't think I will be able to hold out long enough to find out but sucks we don't have that freedom and also that I had a Randy Saulosi and a much less interested Eyebiter boy... Eyebiters seem to do this regularly and I reckon it's the girls taking extra love more so than the boys because it seems male eyebiters are always a little high strung or uninterested ...that's my experiences anyways.... Anyone else had interesting experiences with similar "most likely" hybridisations?? I wouldn't risk a good stock of eyebiters genetics with our hobby the way it is... I've seen some Eyebiters getting around now that just don't seem right with their physiques and this is also bad news for the Strigatus variation that's lurking around as well.. definitely not adding wood to that fire...save the hobby breed true but damn you Saulosi Short n sweet huh
  3. You can definitely see the appetites drop off when the cooler weather kicks in but I try to run mine like I'm in the Amazon and aim for about 26... I'm happy if tanks are 22+ because I know every one has seen days like that but do find the warmer temps keep the youngsters energetic and growing well and keeps the vibe just right for the ones I want to get a little heated in other ways
  4. I second MFF looks like a peacock variety but has a funny look about it too (could just be my eyes )
  5. Hi I am absolutely no help but can share my experience anyway I grew up a nice group of these guys and the best I could figure was the dominant one was a boy...but seriously some people say they aren't too aggressive well this dude grew like a monster and tried to kill every single other member of the group plus they all flashed similar markings and colouration when showing moods so I think vent sexing might be the way to go and even as adults it appears the girls are just smaller which doesn't help much if growing up from a younger age (and your dominant wants to kill boys and girls)...sorry I could be more useful but I can recommend vent sexing for a possible confirmation good luck mate
  6. I think we need to use Facebook as a tool to bring them here and if they knew they could sell in peace here you might win more people than you think...I'm pretty keen to promote this place again as Facebook will not let you sell any livestock and there are some very ugly I mean wise mugs on this site The rule changes with Facebook always made me think this could be a great chance for forums to get back to how they were just before the Facebook scenario happened....forums really aren't hard to use and if you want to be a trickster have both pages (QLDAF and Facebook) open at the same time so you can discuss on both platforms and sell on the one where it is permitted..kind of makes sense to me.. I think it's just getting a new crowd into that frame of mind...there has been a few other apps that have taken off and where people have moved their selling but to be honest it seems to have split the crowd rather than been a movement and I think more people are still on Facebook "suggesting" they have fish to move along as their method of selling but it's risky and definitely not the way you want to discuss fish you are interested in or wish to sell....we just have to berley up the water...the sharks will come back
  7. Yeah I think the xanthic situation we have is unique so it's hard to really know what is going to happen with the genetics of these guys...I bought a group of 5 adults and I never had a sight issue or ever saw it with fry produced and the previous owner also never had an issue so I can't comment on that occurring My female who produced a lot of fry ended up totally yellow from the xanthic genes and never had any health issues...this is why I think the xanthic genes may not make the stock as weak as we think in our unique Australian situation ...these guys are isolated and the xanthic gene is so heavily featured with the original stock we had.. it would be 'normal' in a sense for this type of fish we have now...but it's just what I saw with my group and I can't speak for others or what may have happened with other fish.... Sorry but had to show you the Synspilum I have from Andrew (Labyrinth) because I know what you mean with the sad stuff you see passed off with shops and that's the worst because that's who people trust the most in this hobby but unfortunately some have no idea...the Synspilum below is lucky to be a year old and already looks great..it's also the runt of the group Also chucked in a shot or two of mumma multi as she was "transforming" .. miss her (was sold when I closed my little fishroom down) and she was a great fish
  8. PM sent and any of the little Caudo's left? Cheers mate
  9. Smith's aquarium currently has a good batch of multifasciatus in stock Foskett96 I never found any of my xanthic guys going blind (I had none go blind including my main breeding pair ) and I actually think the xanthic genetics have morphed or mutated being so significant in such a small group and then regularly featured in the fishes DNA so I wasn't aware of the blind effects being caused or at least not with the fish I was working with or produced And have to second what was just said with some good Veija still out there Hamish just have to go with good sources..I grabbed some Synspilum from Labyrinth a little while back and you can definitely see the difference in genetics with well sourced fish coming through Andrew (he really knows his fish and is well aware of the duds getting around)...
  10. Don't give up mate because you might be able to isolate the genetics and cull "back" to a non xanthic line hence why I mentioned the fry "look" could assist..as mentioned my fry were golden as in all over(!) which looked pretty unusual(wish I could find my other old thread on here where I was selling the juvies to show you examples but should be able to find the pics mate so will add them when I do)...I have seen examples of adults that looked a lot less "gold" than even my adults with other people especially interstate so might be worth considering..they had a lot more white on the underbelly and less of a gold look..looking more light yellow..the blue fin edging was apparent in both...I do think the xanthic genetics has almost reshaped this fish in a way and it's a weird little breeding experiment in its own right.. to breed using a recessive gene as a "common" gene in the gene pool and why the majority of these guys here might now be quite different to the original make up of this fish...as with any animal when you start to breed focusing on the recessive genes you will throw colour morphs and break up what's to be normally expected in your offspring...it may take quite a bit of work though(!) (why I was hoping you might be able see if there is some sign at fry/juvenile stage) as you would have to grow out to adult stage for the xanthic trait to show and then hold those that don't show the trait... eventually hoping to minimise further and further with each generation...sounds like a long process..even your new current stock and if they hold different genetics it may be worth breeding these guys and culling back to the desired true form..you can breed deformities out but how long and how many generations that requires is the mystery Weird situation here in Australia and we may find we end up having to do this with a few varieties of fish if the genetics get bad...heavy culling of fry to breed "back" to a good version of the fish...fingers crossed deformed genes don't get too strong with our fish we are allowed and why interstate batches of fish are good to add to the mix I believe..I think the Ellioti is an example along the same lines...some may disagree and say the back deformity with this fish is due to cooler/warmer weather but I disagree and believe it is the initial broodstock introduced to Australia that has caused this issue...If you let the deformity be bred into the fish it shows again...if you aim at fish with the straightest backs it becomes recessive again (still throwing a small few in a generation) and I have found this from breeding experience with temperature not factoring into this at all..we just have limited gene pools with a few of our fish and I believe it's due to the genetic make up of the initial broodstock as opposed to an environmental factor here as well..in most cases strong genetics eventually take over (when the gene pool is diverse or can be added to) but when the initial small group you start with features a deformity or recessive trait it will impact the offspring to a much greater degree and be a lot stronger in the make up of the fish. It is a pain to be stuck having to rely on good breeding practices as opposed to mother nature because we don't have access to true wild fish to replenish the gene pool but I guess if we want to keep what ever variety in this hobby we have this might be our only option (heavy culling with all fish to keep them true which breeders should really be doing anyways we just have to cull more than standard ) Sorry for the essay mate but will also keep an eye out for you if I can come across other sources of these guys as I'd like a nice pair in the future sometime too I think
  11. Sorry Ginger (how you doing by the way) as this is not the msg you were hoping but if you have any of these guys available anytime please let me know (and similis too if you still have these guys going!!!!) Cheers mate and I am on the look out for the Dario's so will let you know if I find someone with a few girls available Good luck
  12. Very interested in this thread and how you are going on your hunt mate (I saw a bunch listed for a store in SA..and they also have some nice little gems turn up from time to time and WA is also another good location to see what's hiding amongst the cool fish over that way)..I managed to breed a whole bunch of these about 8 or so years back and my girl was xanthic but the little guys all turned out super strong no duds etc but naturally id say a few turned xanthic later in life..not sure if this led to marcusandsherells group as I remember dealing with them back in the day...it's funny because overseas they love the xanthic genetics because it's so recessive and rare and yet here with our limited gene pool (evidence in how much the xanthic gene is almost 'common' in a few blood lines now) it's undesired...really does show how little we have had new blood injected into our fish...I believe this all came about because the original group that led to the xanthic factor was a small group of 6 or 7 fish imported way back and one had the gene..like I said shows how much we lack in the way of diverse genetics with our fish!...they are a beautiful fish and might be something to look out for but I noticed all my fry were golden...just saying this could be a sign of xanthic genetics being present (now that it's almost part of the regular DNA with a bunch of these guys)..I was just thinking with the nice white you get on the underside you might find babies with no xanthic genetics could be differently marked as juveniles...just an idea and from my own experiences...would be good to stabilise a blood line that doesn't have the xanthic factor and then keep it true and seperate to the xanthic ones getting about (as it sounds like you are trying to do so good stuff!)...the name of the store in SA with them is Amazing Amazon or something along those lines..but could be worth looking into further if interested..
  13. Hey Mick..that's a sample pic mate so a really good example but in saying that my dominant boy is totally yellow and a bit of a stunner...just doesn't like posing for pics..really like how big these guys get too compared to standard mbuna .will see if I can grab some pics and chuck them in here....are the Star Sapphires more liable to get Malawi bloat as i've lost 2 youngsters now (growing up a batch of 10) and they are in with other hap youngsters with no issue but yeah only the Sapphires and seem to have gotten the bloat
  14. Wondering how these two would do together and I dont think it would be a drama plus could end up looking pretty sexy in there So some Placidochromis Phenochilus Tanzania (the Star Sapphire Cichlids) with some Pseudotropheus Williamsi North Makonde(the Blue Lips.. & that's a little easier to say )... I think you can see the potential for this to look pretty nice as a big display and have also thought this could be a good combo as they both love to sift sand and a quality that makes these guys very happy...(my big Blue Lips boy loves nothing more than cruising around all day sifting.. looking for snacks! ) Thoughts guys and things to be wary of(?)..I've actually only recently added some of the Star Sapphires and never kept these guys before but hoping they would do well in this type of set up... At full adult size I'm thinking this could look really nice
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