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  1. Hi everyone, Trying to get my head around the effects of PH GH & KH and rift lake mixes. Ok so I understand there is heaps of links throughout the Internet for rift lake recipes but all of them are different. Some more complex then other etc etc. As a noob I have taken in some info, disregarded other info and have done my own test. I am posting this in order to learn and obtain advice from those more knowledgeable and perhaps help other novice aquarium enthusiast feel more comfortable and prepared to do the same. Why have I decided to make my own mix? Mainly cost, although not mixing or adding anything previously is cheaper again. So hence the second reason is due to the water conditions in my tank not being optimal or to a standard I feel my Malawi Cichlids deserve. While on the topic the current readings for Ph and hardness is my tank are as follows; PH 8.2 GH 120mg/l KH 70mg/l What products did I choose for my initial tests? I have a Bag of pool salt (sunray brand) that I purchased from Bunnings at $7. 1kg of bi-carb soda (McKenzies brand) $3 1kg of Epsom Salts (no brand visible) $8 I am unsure of the actual cost of the bicarb and the Epsom salts as I had my partner do the shopping and I lost the receipt, but they were around that amount. I choose to only utilise these three products because as a novice, I wanted to keep this as simple process as possible. Over time I may change the ingredients whether it be due to my own knowledge increasing or a recommendation from a trusted source. I wont change the recipe if someone simply says "pool salt is bad you shouldn't use it" or "my brothers girlfriends uncles first year apprentice said..." Ok so first of all I started by collecting a 20L sample of my tap water, I aerated it with a mild dose of prime and let it sit for over 24 hours. The results of testing my tap water are as follows; Ph 7.6 - 7.7 GH 50-60mg/l KH 50mg/l What do I know about these figures? I know that the PH, while high for tap water, is still a bit low for my tank inhabitants. I know that the water is relatively soft. What don't I know about these figures? I don't yet know how concerned I should be, if at all. I don't yet know the correct conversion for the GH and KH scale to get these amount in degrees. I don't know how accurate they are as I am only using one master test kit to obtain them and its accuracy is unknown. Anything else I don't know is simply cause I have not learnt or been told as yet. Beyond that there is probably thousands of over things I do not know about tap water that is completely irrelevant. Ok moving on I have now created a second 20L batch of tap water and primed and aerated it for just 12 hours, but I also added the following; 1 tsp Bicarb 3 tsp Epsom salts 1 tsp pool salt I tested this mixture this morning and I now have the following figures; PH 8.6 GH 340mg/l KH 140mg/l What do I know about these figures? I know that they have increased dramatically from my plain water sample. I know that the water would now be considered hard. I also believe the PH is at the higher end of the scale that my Malawi cichlids would prefer. What don't I know about these figures? I don't know if they are too high. I don't know if there is any concerns with slowly altering my tank water with water changes utilising this mix. I still don't know all the other thousand of things about tap water the may or may not be relevant. So that's is where I am at as of this morning. I look forward to any opinions or advice in regards to what I am doing that may or may not be correct. I will update this thread with my mixture results as we go along. I am always willing to learn, but unfortunately I am a physical learner so all the reading in the world generally doesn't help me. Hence I have to do it to really understand it. So I do apologise if this is frustrating for some who feel that all the information I need is floating out there in the online world. I do have another 20l batch currently awaiting testing but this time I have reduced the Epsom salt teaspoons from three to two. Why did I do this? I have no idea, curious I guess? Or perhaps I am just being tight and trying to minimise the materials used to stretch out or simplify the mixture... I don't know, but it's done and I will report the results and appreciate any discussion regarding the two mixes. Anyway I have a busy day today (working on 4wd) but thank all in advance for their input and I hope this helps me and others in the future. I already feel more comfortable with what I am doing simply by making this very post alone, so fingers crossed it works as intended. Cheers Grimace
  2. When lowering PH in a tropical tank using epsom salt how much is a good starting dose per 100l of tank water?
  3. Ok so after a few weeks of using Epsom salts to raise GH i started to get a little iffy on it, due to a few things. #1 It has a laxative effect on fish, and on humans, its used to treat dropsy aswell because it draws fluid from the body which if your not sick that's a bad thing. #2 fish,just like people become dependant on laxatives,its not a good thing in the long run for both ppl and fish, the muscles associated with moving waste through the gut quit working as efficiently because the laxative does alot of the job for them. Apparently if you don't know exactly how much Epsom salts is too much or if you use it to often (e.g. every water change) the salts build up. #3 it also has a sedative effect along with the laxative effect, which might be useful in some cases but its all very un-natural and when you think about it you wouldn't like being on laxatives 24/7 esp if it wasn't necessary! So why would the fish like it? Lastly I'll admit I thought the fish were going good on the whole Epsom salt thing but I think they were just going good because of the small amount of sea salt I was adding to boost iodine in the water which apparently is extremely important for fish and the mineral quickly depletes from the water and the bad effects of iodine deficiency on fish are proven to be numerous. But in general I wasn't happy with the way my featherfins started to look and act after a couple weeks using Epsom salts and a few days ago I started using riftlake salts again and their looking better all round in general (and if you want an indicator of good or bad water conditions that effect colour and active behaviour in fish you cant get a better one than cyathopharynx as you'll get far from decent colour from these fish if general good water conditions are off!) or atleast they wont be coloured for long. So yeh I for one am NOT gonna be using anymore Epsom salts to raise GH and recommend ppl who do use it to take a close look at the facts of its effects etc and take a close look at wether your fish are actually doing as well as they could or should be while living in a sedative/laxative state 24/7. Theres many who debate this and say that their fish do well on the Epsom salt/bi-carb/marine salt D.I.Y. buffer but theres many more who consider it a no go, and now that I think of it the issue of the laxative effect alone is enough for me to consider epsom salt a no go for my fish. Cheers ;
  4. Hey guys, I've never owned shrimp before so I'm still learning about them. I have a fish with a swim bladder problem that I want to dose with Epsom salts but there's shrimp in the tank too & I thought I'd check just cause that thing in my head went off & created doubt, so I thought I'd ask the forum of the wise. Are Epsom salts safe for cherry shrimp?
  5. is magnesium epsom salts sulfate ok to put with my fish please help with solution the brand is faulding
  6. I have always kept metro on hand just incase.. But also worry about the over use of antibiotics leading to them being rendered useless.. I know they are great at what they do but will they always? Anyhow I found these guys having success with alternate methods:) It's basicly a 3% solution of Epsom salt and water.. 1 level tablespoon (15 grams) of Epsom salt and 500 ml water.. Then use a pipette to soak food:) Here's a link that goes into great detail about it Treating Hexamita aka Spironucleus I've not had a chance to try it myself, but that's a good thing nobody wants hex;)
  7. Hi all, was wondering peoples opinion on the use of epsom salt(mag sulphate) instead of the very expensive cichlid lake salt. Having spoken to chemist type people at my workplace, and they think it would work , but they have no aquarium keeping experience. any thoughts would be appreciated greatly.
  8. Can epsom salts be used as part of a regular water change? i normally add some aquarium salt (a pinch), & tropical conditioning salts (in my tropical tank) Since it has properties that is beneficial for fish health, Im wondering if it can be used regularly - in diluted doses i assume...
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