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Hey guys looking to get a bigger pump for a system. Sadly I can't use Laguna as I am aiming for 20,000 / 25,000 lph.

I was mainly wondering if anyone has used one of the aquanova pumps off age of aquariums ? The 20,000lph looks pretty good wattage wise and head height plus the price is very nice.

I am a bit unsure as every pump but my lagunas has died on me. The aquael look good also but the price is a bit dear if they last I may consider it... I am hoping the aquanovas are decent though...more money for fish .

I do find the rated draws quite off aquanovas 20k uses 200w where as the aquael with an extra 5k is using 150w more alone,ok they do rate it at 0.5head more too.. seems a bit odd though ?

Any ideas?

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Go visit your local irrigation or pump store specialist for professional advice.

For example the Grundfos UPS 25-60 will give you 26,000 LPH at 2.5m head height for 60 watts and cost about $200 new. So quiet, you have to touch it to see if it is running. Grundfos UPS 25-60 (180mm) Domestic Circulator Pump Online in Australia

However, there is quite a bit to pump sizing, water salinity, open or closed systems, back pressure tolerance. What is your max flow and max head requirement, have you adjusted for pipe diameters, etc. You may also decide to pay extra for bronze or stainless casing.

To put it another way, do you require low pressure flow (as in a water fall) or high pressure flow (as in narrow pipes and multiple valves on each tank). That's where pump motor size (and economy) comes into play.

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Thanks Aquaholic. That pump is quite nice.

I believe I am chasing high pressure more. my goal is to not use wave makers in my 8x4x3 but still have a decent current all over, my 16000 Laguna just won't cut it. From the sump to the max height the return runs is 1.6m so nothing too major.

I have a 5x2x3 adding to the system also and 2 x 25w uvs + a denitrate system. I am considering running this on a Sep pump.

Original I was just going to use a wave maker but I don't think they will last the cheap one always got broken by my fish within a week.

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P.s I don't know how to edit on the phone sorrry...but does anyone also happen to know a online shop that ships aus wide with loc line fittings and black pvc? I know guppies has both but too much negative feedback about them :(.

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The grundfos pumps all have 3 speed dial settings.

I made my own wave maker with a top tank that slowly fills until it dumps into the tank below. Two dumps per hour is plenty to stir up a tank. You only need a tiny pump for this. I went one further and have top tiers dumping into middle tier which dumps into bottom tier. It's noisy but I have a single 10,000 lph pump (35 watts I think - it's not a grundfos pump ) that keeps a 60 tank (12,000 L system ) spotless, oxygenated and allows auto water change and central heating.

If you want black PVC, just stain normal pipe and fittings with tie dye stain (in very hot water).

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Go visit your local irrigation or pump store specialist for professional advice.

For example the Grundfos UPS 25-60 will give you 26,000 LPH at 2.5m head height for 60 watts and cost about $200 new. So quiet, you have to touch it to see if it is running. Grundfos UPS 25-60 (180mm) Domestic Circulator Pump Online in Australia

However, there is quite a bit to pump sizing, water salinity, open or closed systems, back pressure tolerance. What is your max flow and max head requirement, have you adjusted for pipe diameters, etc. You may also decide to pay extra for bronze or stainless casing.

To put it another way, do you require low pressure flow (as in a water fall) or high pressure flow (as in narrow pipes and multiple valves on each tank). That's where pump motor size (and economy) comes into play.

What application would best suit the grundfos.

I like the look of the water flow and wattage.

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The variable speed control on the Aquael sealed the deal for me. Might not be useful for everyone, but I couldn't live without it.

Here here, love the aquaels. Awesome pumps.

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Thanks guys, seems a fair of love for the aquaels, have you guys had them for long?

Thanks Aqua for the advice, I like the dumping idea normally use it on tiers also but this tank has only got 400mm clearance above due to the steel roof beams. I am thinking I could use the reservoir for the tank to do something similar with a pump on a timer & overflow back into it from the main sump.

I was even thinking a second hand vortex would work maybe... they seem more sturdy the rtc may have issues knocking it around.

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Thanks guys, seems a fair of love for the aquaels, have you guys had them for long?

Thanks Aqua for the advice, I like the dumping idea normally use it on tiers also but this tank has only got 400mm clearance above due to the steel roof beams. I am thinking I could use the reservoir for the tank to do something similar with a pump on a timer & overflow back into it from the main sump.

I was even thinking a second hand vortex would work maybe... they seem more sturdy the rtc may have issues knocking it around.

Is this for one tank? I'd look at a several smaller sumps or perhaps a couple of air lifts. Are you just trying to turn water over to keep sediment settling?

Another trick is to use 2 smaller pumps to lift in 2 stages if your head height forces you onto a bigger more energy consuming single pump.

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Is this for one tank? I'd look at a several smaller sumps or perhaps a couple of air lifts. Are you just trying to turn water over to keep sediment settling?

Another trick is to use 2 smaller pumps to lift in 2 stages if your head height forces you onto a bigger more energy consuming single pump.

Its going to be a 2 display tank unit with 3 sumps (1s a res), 8x4x3 & 5x2x3. Currently run a 16,000lph laguna with cichlids in there and I get good clear water but I get sediment settling and it drives me nuts, my rtc produces must larger waste so I figured I need to up the pump or add a wave maker or the like.... issue is in past everything I placed in the tank she broke, so id prefer to use the sump return to create enough flow which I think maybe difficult or very expensive haha.

I am leaning @ two pumps, one for the 5ft +uvs & other for 8x4x3, think this maybe work best & will keep it more simple plumbing wise.

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Thanks guys, seems a fair of love for the aquaels, have you guys had them for long?

Thanks Aqua for the advice, I like the dumping idea normally use it on tiers also but this tank has only got 400mm clearance above due to the steel roof beams. I am thinking I could use the reservoir for the tank to do something similar with a pump on a timer & overflow back into it from the main sump.

I was even thinking a second hand vortex would work maybe... they seem more sturdy the rtc may have issues knocking it around.

Two years for my aquael, silent as the day I got it and not a single hiccup, never cleaned it either.

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The grundfos pumps all have 3 speed dial settings.

I made my own wave maker with a top tank that slowly fills until it dumps into the tank below. Two dumps per hour is plenty to stir up a tank. You only need a tiny pump for this. I went one further and have top tiers dumping into middle tier which dumps into bottom tier. It's noisy but I have a single 10,000 lph pump (35 watts I think - it's not a grundfos pump ) that keeps a 60 tank (12,000 L system ) spotless, oxygenated and allows auto water change and central heating.

Sounds great [MENTION=470]aquaholic99[/MENTION]. Do you have any images or even diagrams of this type of system?

Sounds like just the ticket for something I'm working on.

Cheers,

Rob

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