pk333 Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Ok guys. Does anyone know if Superchlor will remove trace minerals from aged water? What is the "life span" of Superchlor is a water barrel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquaholic99 Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Peter, You are best off asking Graham this directly. He is very approachable and extremely knowledgeble as well as having spent quite a bit of time and money developing Superchlor. It also helps that he lives fairly local and knows brisbane water. G.& K. Lloyd-Jones Aquarium & Pet Products Manufacturing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tech Den Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Ok guys. Does anyone know if Superchlor will remove trace minerals from aged water?What is the "life span" of Superchlor is a water barrel? Supachlor contains EDTA which will chelate a lot of metals which in turn can then be used plants. As Aquaholic99 mentioned Graham is very knowledgeable on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham CLJ Posted January 23, 2015 Report Share Posted January 23, 2015 Ok guys. Does anyone know if Superchlor will remove trace minerals from aged water?What is the "life span" of Superchlor is a water barrel? Hello Peter, Supa Chlor will remove toxic ions by chelation, in the case of iron for example, (usually found in Bore water) it will turn it into EDTA Chelated iron which is the only way plants can take up iron effectively. it adds trace elements in the form of Carbon which is essential to all carbon based life forms. Supa Chlor will treat chlorine and toxic ions in the water once you have added it, but if you add more water treat the volume you add. Regards Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pk333 Posted January 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2015 Hello Peter,Supa Chlor will remove toxic ions by chelation, in the case of iron for example, (usually found in Bore water) it will turn it into EDTA Chelated iron which is the only way plants can take up iron effectively. it adds trace elements in the form of Carbon which is essential to all carbon based life forms. Supa Chlor will treat chlorine and toxic ions in the water once you have added it, but if you add more water treat the volume you add. Regards Graham Thanks for the reply Graham. What I meant to ask is, if I add trace minerals such as Discus Trace to treated water, will Superchlor remove them? Is there a time period that Superchlor works in to remove or change minerals in the water, and after a set period it's effectiveness wares off, at which point it would safe to add such trace minerals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellows Posted January 24, 2015 Report Share Posted January 24, 2015 Hello Peter,Supa Chlor will remove toxic ions by chelation, in the case of iron for example, (usually found in Bore water) it will turn it into EDTA Chelated iron which is the only way plants can take up iron effectively. it adds trace elements in the form of Carbon which is essential to all carbon based life forms. Supa Chlor will treat chlorine and toxic ions in the water once you have added it, but if you add more water treat the volume you add. Regards Graham Hi Graham, This is very interesting just one part are you saying if I do a water change and my tank that holds 500 litres and I take 200 litres out that I only treat the 200 litres I'm putting back in with Supa chlor and not the whole 500 litres Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny@ageofaquariums Posted January 24, 2015 Report Share Posted January 24, 2015 Ok guys. Does anyone know if Superchlor will remove trace minerals from aged water?What is the "life span" of Superchlor is a water barrel? First of all, what is the pH? That decides much of the answer. 6.5 seems to be the sweet spot, much higher and iron gets harder to keep up. Theres an excellent table on the backyard aquaponics forum that shows this very well. Worth checking out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham CLJ Posted January 25, 2015 Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 (edited) P Thanks for the reply Graham. What I meant to ask is, if I add trace minerals such as Discus Trace to treated water, will Superchlor remove them? Is there a time period that Superchlor works in to remove or change minerals in the water, and after a set period it's effectiveness wares off, at which point it would safe to add such trace minerals. Hello Again, Supa Chlor used to remove Calcium from town water by Chelation (not with EDTA), so it would have been a problem once for the Calcium part of your Trace elements, it now does this with a Carbon Aldahyde which sequests Calcium Carbonate back from Calcium Hydroxide leaving you with small amounts of Calcium Carbonate. That having been said, don't worry about having to much Calcium Carbonate, Supa Chlor is more designed to break down Calcium Hydroxide not adding heaps of Calcium Carbonate which it doesn't do. Keep using your trace elements as usual, don't forget Chelated iron, it helps catalyse all other trace elements for plants. This is a part of our Glutaraldahyde fertiliser. That's if its plant growth you want. Edited January 25, 2015 by Graham CLJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pk333 Posted January 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 Thank you for the replay Graham. Bare bottom tanks, though I am thinking of adding some Amazon swords in pots in to the 4ft'er. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham CLJ Posted January 25, 2015 Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 Hi Graham, This is very interesting just one part are you saying if I do a water change and my tank that holds 500 litres and I take 200 litres out that I only treat the 200 litres I'm putting back in with Supa chlor and not the whole 500 litres Hello Just treat the amount of water you are adding back to the aquarium. Regards Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellows Posted January 25, 2015 Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 HelloJust treat the amount of water you are adding back to the aquarium. Regards Graham Oops no worries [MENTION=3677]Graham CLJ[/MENTION] that might explain why I went through my last bottle so quickly oh well when [MENTION=1338]The Tech Den[/MENTION] sells it so cheap I can afford to throw it away well not really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquaholic99 Posted January 25, 2015 Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 Chelation being chemical binding (rendering it unavailable). Sequester being the accumulation /buildup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lgw Posted January 25, 2015 Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 Oops no worries [MENTION=3677]Graham CLJ[/MENTION] that might explain why I went through my last bottle so quickly oh well when [MENTION=1338]The Tech Den[/MENTION] sells it so cheap I can afford to throw it away well not really You're not the only one, I've always treated the total volume too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham CLJ Posted January 25, 2015 Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 Chelation being chemical binding (rendering it unavailable).Sequester being the accumulation /buildup. I'm not sure if sequests is the right word for what Hydrated lime (Calcium Hydroxide) does to Calcium Carbonate. This process is known as Clarking because it was discovered my Mr Clark in the 1860's. It's where Lime softens water of Calcium Carbonate so you have a low Carbonate hardness but Lime then reads as an elevated General Hardness. If you pass Carbon Dioxide through an Aqueos solution of Hydrated Lime you end up with a precipitate of Calcium Carbonate. So when your reading Hardness in Town Water it's all wrong and it usually gets higher with higher levels of rain. I hope everyone is now suitably confused. I still think about it everyday, water is difficult to Fathom. Well every second day. Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquaholic99 Posted January 25, 2015 Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 I would use sequester as a biological accumulation. Example how ciguatera or mercury is only a problem when eating bigger predatory fish. Smaller fish aren't able to collect dangerous amounts individually. Water is an amazing molecule. The physical characteristics are just as interesting as chemical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
