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New Aquarium shop has opened up near my neck of the woods and they have a nice range of Aulonocara, I am a little dubious though as the fish are roughly 4 -5cm in size and almost all of them are showing nice colouring, almost adult colour. The Benga tank is full of yellow fish, I have kept Aulonocara before and I know Baenshi are a late bloomer, question is how do you tell if Aulonocara are hormoned. There is a Taiwan Reef tank which is full of males, seems to good to be true for me.

In my experience, Aulonocara tanks are brown, they take time to mature, I have been burnt in the past buying hormoned fish, I have seen Aulonocara glowing as they have been fed way to much hormone in the past.

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If in the past you mean 20years ago.... you can't get hormones in food it Fn illegal. Do some reading ...

Its colour enhancing food high in protein and a couple of pigments in shellfish and algae as well as other caratenoids.ect.ect

The fish are fed this for 2 reasons.1 so they look pretty to sell quicker and as they grow, they all look like males so the females don't get picked on. Coloured female can and do breed too.AND if theyre showing adult colour at a small size you can some of the closer looking ones apart a bit easier. Its that simple buddy.

Have a nice arvo

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No food in Australia has hormones in it. It would come under pharmaceutical regulations if they did, they would have been fed food high in carotenoid and astaxanthin. Probably white crane or something similar.

Most shops have a sign saying they are using colour enhancing foods.

Cheers mick

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White crane is what I was alluding too, hormones or whatever it contains, no sign and the owner said Tetra colour bits. I do not know much about White Crane, I know it was around 10yrs ago, could not be bothered reading about it to be honest, not something I would feed my fish.

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I like how you don't want to start another white crane debate, they have been done to death.

With the fish it depends what you're after, if it's for display I wouldn't be to worried but if it's for breeding it will be harder to pick females.

Cheers mick

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At 5cm I get good colour out of 1-2 subs and the dom male in my Benga fry tank, they get fed Tech Den 1mm Crumble. But yeah, if large quantities of fish in the same tank are showing colour they are being colour fed. Whether the shop is responsible for the colour feeding or the supplier, the consumer is the one who gets tricked and annoyed when looking for a specific sex'd fish.

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To be fair the shop owner should tell you they are being colour fed and if you don't continue feeding them this food the males may loose some of their vibrant colour.

Should he tell you females are showing male colours? Certainly because they will go back to their drab colour if not continually colour fed.

I wouldn't buy fish from that shop, I would rather buy fish that have great colours because they are from good quality parents.

That may be difficult in Townsville but here in Brissie we have plenty of reputable lfs to choose from.

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Shops get in coloured assorted peacocks because they sell so well. Gotta pay the rent man.

Understood, it is hard to sell females unless your looking to breed them. But you drop a coloured female in a male peacock tank, stop the colour feed, and you potentially wind up with dead fish and wasted money.

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Possibly.

But if a lfs gets in 20 small peacocks..... 3 days later the dominat male sells. No more sell unless the lfs worker has a dam good answer to the 'what does this one look like?'

......until the next male colours up.

Then it sells.

and the wait is on until the next one colours up.

A tank that sells 2 fish a week... compared to one that sells 15 a week.... you cant blame some lfs for taking the easier path.

Learn to read cichlid behaviour and you can see the girls no matter the dress.

No help to the beginners perhaps.... but then this hobby like most others can be brutal as a n00b.

Hated as they may be, some of my favourite fish over the years have come from assorted peacock tanks.

Its a gamble.....

yolo lol

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Agreed, it is brutal and we all have to eat.

Picture on the front of the tank is always a good option. And yes assorted peacock males are a mostly hated option.

I would probably take a punt if they were sold assorted male and the lfs give you a list of what they actually are (no hybrids, and don't keep similar types in the same tank)? You can save that for assorted tank 2,3 etc.

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Donny that's because so many people are stupid, in this day and age with the internet they still don't understand, they do not research, people just follow trends, they are sheep. People are also lazy and they are impatient.

How many would buy from an assorted peacock tank? how many true enthusiasts? I was away from the hobby for a while and what I found up here is that it had changed for the worse.

I agree though Donny, a shop has to cater to the market, it has to pay bills, I had a convo with my old mate who has had a shop up here for years, he told me Peacocks don't sell unless they are hormoned to the eyeballs! His words not mine, he is a good kid and Clownsville is such a backwards place it would be tough!

I don't have many fish from here, only found some Taiwan Reefs local and a few Victorians, the rest is all your bred and butter fish. There are a few good Mbuna but my Lhs doesn't have what I want, so have sourced elsewhere.

I may sound harsh, but I care not, the truth is what it is!

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We are specialists........ not all petshop staff are.

Its kinda pretty awesome when you stop to think about it.

Most our concerns on morals/ethics are not even a blip on most peoples radar.

A fish.... is not just a pet to us.

You know, a little buddy we take home.

Who cares if he has a fancy name or even who the parents were.

Why would any of that matter?

A tiny bit of me envies those people.

As they choose by colour....

Ignorance has its perks :)

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