Adverse Effects Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 it would seem the 4 female guppys i bought from the LFS would not seem to be look what i found 3 of in my tank today http://youtu.be/T7Nt2p652Gg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lictoga Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 I think guppies can store sperm. So if they were in a mixed tank prior to your purchase that may explain this. Either that or start a religion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORANGEMELLY Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 ..I deliberately try to purchase mbuna when they are holding - free fish - congrats...you got 3 free fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smicko Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 Maybe researching fish before buying them would stop your disappointment and you wouldn't be so annoyed by a shop that has done nothing wrong. Guppies are grown up in massive numbers by wholesalers or their suppliers and they aren't separated into sexes until they are big enough to go for sale but guppies can breed before they are 4cm and the females store sperm so they can drop babies 3-4 months after they have been separated. I would never complain about free fish. What if the shop in question made a post claiming you stole fish because they were pregnant when you bought them. Cheers mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny@ageofaquariums Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 You can get 6 batches of fry out of a female before she needs to even be in the same tank as a dude again. Superfetation! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superfetation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny@ageofaquariums Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 That aside, sexing guppies is super easy once about 2 months old. Females have an anal fin, and in males it transforms into a spike called a gonopodium. If only it was the same with discus and oscars! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tech Den Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 Here is a bit of more info for you about guppys which might help you enjoy them a bit more. Breeding Guppies ..I deliberately try to purchase mbuna when they are holding - free fish - congrats...you got 3 free fish. I remember doing that too, going shop to shop to find fish holding. Some would make it others would swallow them from stress of being singled out and bagged. I had fun and enjoyed doing the rounds. Fond memories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adverse Effects Posted August 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2015 Maybe researching fish before buying them would stop your disappointment and you wouldn't be so annoyed by a shop that has done nothing wrong. WOW over reaction much? i dont see anywhere in my post i say i was upset with having some new free family members ok yes the title could be an over step Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smicko Posted August 17, 2015 Report Share Posted August 17, 2015 Only as much of an over reaction as your title was. Sorry if I got a bit serious but lately there seems to be a lot of lfs bashing. No offence meant. Cheers mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquaholic99 Posted August 17, 2015 Report Share Posted August 17, 2015 The commercial fish farms separate their guppies by sex at several weeks of age. They use a wooden sorting table, with a hole in opposite corners, an occasional laddle of water and the reflection of light off abdomen to reliably sort males from females at less than a centimeter size. I've seen multiple rows of farm workers working long hours each and every day. I've also seen entire vats of guppies destroyed if a male manages to hop over into a female vat and contamination occurs. This is the only way to keep line bred pedigree's pure and why some guppy prices will be over a thousand dollars per pair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
litigator666 Posted August 17, 2015 Report Share Posted August 17, 2015 i'm still waiting for my guppy to lay eggs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny@ageofaquariums Posted August 17, 2015 Report Share Posted August 17, 2015 ftp://ftp.fao.org/fi/cdrom/fao_training/FAO_Training/General/x6709e/Index.htm Seen this before Winston? Phylogenetic tree showing relationships among 94 species of the fish family Poeciliidae. : The evolution of the placenta drives a shift in sexual selection in livebearing fish : Nature : Nature Publishing Group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adverse Effects Posted August 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2015 That aside, sexing guppies is super easy once about 2 months old. Females have an anal fin, and in males it transforms into a spike called a gonopodium.If only it was the same with discus and oscars! ok going by that black one = girl = now dead yellow one = girl and chasing the baby's orange and blacky/silver = girl and being annoyed by the blue one blue one = *BUZZER GOING OFF* boy and chasing the big orange girl around the tank for the last day or so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adverse Effects Posted August 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 well it looks like the babys are from the black one that died about a week ago as there the same patterning and base black as the one that died Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny@ageofaquariums Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 Not that uncommon..... see this link Guppies father fry after they die | Wonk on the Wildlife Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adverse Effects Posted August 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 O MY LORD now the yellow one has had babys http://youtu.be/iAfDOAU2r3c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefan.jsp Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 you have guppies....fish mice? i don't think iv ever heard of anyone having guppies and them not breeding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pk333 Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Guppies are the rabbits of the fish world. Nothing surprising here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netto14 Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Always good to extra fish for your $ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adverse Effects Posted September 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2015 (edited) well its 2 weeks and i now have over 25 baby's(fri?) maby even 30 in my tank from 3 females (one died giving birth) i am cycling a new tank as fast as i can to get the male out of there LOL i then have the problem of sexing all of the fri before they start at it and my eye sight isnt really that good so this could be a bit of a struggle Edited September 1, 2015 by Adverse Effects Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny@ageofaquariums Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 All fish will look female as small fry. The anal fin converts to a spike as males start to mature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adverse Effects Posted September 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 want to come and do it for me :-) i'll give you 10 of them for doing it LOL its interesting you can see clearly 3 different size baby sets biggest are 1cm then about 6mm and 3 mm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ash Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Didn't they tell you not to get water on them, or under no circumstances let the eat after midnight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smicko Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 If you want a all male display tank put the temp up to 28 and most will be born male, a bit late for the fry you have but it could help in the future. The easiest way to tell the sex if them young will be the gravid spot on the back of the belly. Unfortunately that will mean they are already pregnant. I solved my guppy breeding problem with some rainbows, i only have two left now. Cheers mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
