Slipshodman Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 (edited) Hi Guys, after some help here please, So i did a bit if a clean up in my shrimp tank as the Java moss had been going crazy and so i pulled a few bits from off the gravel and sat it over my sponge filter. (i was trying to get a couple of decent shots to post here and wanted to look its best) At look what i found, some of these little **** (swearing omitted) This is a pic from google as i don't have a camera that would get a good pic of these things, but they are a perfect match to what i saw. Anyway , so thanks to google i am now totally confused if this is a big problem or not and how to treat if i need to I haven't seen any Hydra , just these guys.... After some looking around here and with google i get mixed comments on if these are dangerous to my shrimp or not, once site suggests that these have a coating on there skin (for want of a better term) that is toxic to shrimp. Other suggest to use wormer on the tank but no good info on what sort and how much. I noticed some big ones about 1.5 to 2 cm in length and then after a bit of study noticed many smaller ones as well. I also have seen a little test tube type set up that traps them as from what i have read these guys are carnivorous From what i understand it is due to overfeeding, i only feed the shrimp once a week and let them live of bio-film the rest of the time. Also cleaning the gravel, i am not real sure how to accomplish that with so many little shrimp in there, i imagine it would be a massacre... I think i have lost some of the adult shrimp but there is still a lot of activity with probably 70 + of the babies swimming around and doing there thing. I also have pond snails in there that decided to come with the Java moss when i first got it but didn't think that that would be a problem, Last but not least i had an apple snail in there but also noticed that he didn't move last night and might be RIP, some of my research is that the apple snail should have eaten the planaria, So questions are - Are these guys dangerous ? - Best way to treat if they are without affecting the shrimp ? Wormer ? test Tube trap ? are they really carnivorous and/or toxic to shrimp ? - If i need to clean the gravel, suggestions on how (i know that sounds like a stupid question) but without massacring a heap of shrimplets - Are pond snails bad for the tank The tank is a 1 ft cube , been up and running for a few months and this is the first time i have seen them. Your help is appreciated Tank shot below Added this link which was an interesting read but didn't really clear things up for me Aquarium Planaria; Wiggly Detritus Worms, in Tank Water, on Glass Edited August 20, 2015 by Slipshodman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slipshodman Posted August 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Bump , Help would be appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goneself Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 Harmless mate. Ugly but totally harmless. You can get a product called no planaria if they bother you too much. I'd be more concerned about the pond snails, they'll take the tank over eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grubby Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 No planaria, no longer available in Australia. You might have to order it from the US or the UK via Ebay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slipshodman Posted August 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 Thanks [MENTION=2912]goneself[/MENTION] and [MENTION=3726]grubby[/MENTION] So is all the talk about them being toxic to shrimp a load of ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goneself Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 Whereabouts are you? I have no planaria if you're near. And yeah, I've never seen any ill effects from them..have seen them eating a dead shrimp but doubt they were doing anything but scavenging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slipshodman Posted August 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 Whereabouts are you? I have no planaria if you're near. And yeah, I've never seen any ill effects from them..have seen them eating a dead shrimp but doubt they were doing anything but scavenging. Down in Sydney mate, thanks for the offer but a bit far to go The tech den has Planaira Zero , Is it the Same stuff ? Search for products And would the Planaira trap work or would it just trap my shrimp ? Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PETFISH Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 yes we have planaria zero, and yes it works very well on planaria and hydra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzShrimp Posted August 27, 2015 Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 Hi Guys,after some help here please, So i did a bit if a clean up in my shrimp tank as the Java moss had been going crazy and so i pulled a few bits from off the gravel and sat it over my sponge filter. (i was trying to get a couple of decent shots to post here and wanted to look its best) At look what i found, some of these little **** (swearing omitted) This is a pic from google as i don't have a camera that would get a good pic of these things, but they are a perfect match to what i saw. [ATTACH=CONFIG]66783[/ATTACH] Anyway , so thanks to google i am now totally confused if this is a big problem or not and how to treat if i need to I haven't seen any Hydra , just these guys.... After some looking around here and with google i get mixed comments on if these are dangerous to my shrimp or not, once site suggests that these have a coating on there skin (for want of a better term) that is toxic to shrimp. Other suggest to use wormer on the tank but no good info on what sort and how much. I noticed some big ones about 1.5 to 2 cm in length and then after a bit of study noticed many smaller ones as well. I also have seen a little test tube type set up that traps them as from what i have read these guys are carnivorous From what i understand it is due to overfeeding, i only feed the shrimp once a week and let them live of bio-film the rest of the time. Also cleaning the gravel, i am not real sure how to accomplish that with so many little shrimp in there, i imagine it would be a massacre... I think i have lost some of the adult shrimp but there is still a lot of activity with probably 70 + of the babies swimming around and doing there thing. I also have pond snails in there that decided to come with the Java moss when i first got it but didn't think that that would be a problem, Last but not least i had an apple snail in there but also noticed that he didn't move last night and might be RIP, some of my research is that the apple snail should have eaten the planaria, So questions are - Are these guys dangerous ? - Best way to treat if they are without affecting the shrimp ? Wormer ? test Tube trap ? are they really carnivorous and/or toxic to shrimp ? - If i need to clean the gravel, suggestions on how (i know that sounds like a stupid question) but without massacring a heap of shrimplets - Are pond snails bad for the tank The tank is a 1 ft cube , been up and running for a few months and this is the first time i have seen them. Your help is appreciated Tank shot below Added this link which was an interesting read but didn't really clear things up for me Aquarium Planaria; Wiggly Detritus Worms, in Tank Water, on Glass Mate if you want a 100% shrimp product to get rid of them then get a product called internal parasite clear Internal Parasite Clear 50g | Aquarium Online Store There have been some cases of no planaria causing shrimp deaths although not frequent it does occur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishy14Frontosa Posted August 27, 2015 Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 Get little gourami, no more than 7 cm. your problems will solve. They love hyra and planaria. Put tetras & rasboras little fishes after your problems solve. They are food for fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny@ageofaquariums Posted August 27, 2015 Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 Get little gourami, no more than 7 cm. your problems will solve. They love hyra and planaria. Put tetras & rasboras little fishes after your problems solve. They are food for fish. Baby shrimp are also food for fish lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slipshodman Posted October 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 Hi Guys, thought i would give you an update (although quite belated) My tank had got a bit out of hand with over growth of the Riccia and Java Moss adn at one point juts before dosing i thought i had lost all the Red Cherries that were in there. But i didn't let that stop me trying to regenerate the tank to what it was. So first thing first was to kill the little buggas off So i used the planaria Zero i got from the Tech Den After a week of dosing as required and a big clean of the tank afterwards i am positive that the product has worked well I have not seen any of these little buggas for the last few weeks. And low and behold it i still have some red cherries in the tank,maybe a dozen or so, not as many as a couple of months ago but enough small ones that they can start a new generation or two to thrive in the tank It seems all the larger ones have dissapeared during the process or the led up to and the ones left at the biggest are only a centimeter long or so But that's a better result than i thought it might end up. Thanks for your help and advice Cheers johnbetta 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
