borntobreed Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 (edited) Found these little bristleworms in my Nitraguard ! Ewwwwwwww gross !! Makes me wonder if they may be the reason my Hammers died and my Duncans are depleting too ? The other night a torch revealed a bristleworm I reckon about 6 inches long!!! These are the mini ones I found in the sump weaving thru the nitraguard Edited October 15, 2015 by borntobreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbunamad Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 My ass is itchy!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borntobreed Posted October 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 hahhaaaaaaaaaaaaa..... what about the jokes about the 6 inch worm??? geeeeez........ lift your game ay mbunawhohasnotbrednoteven1bettayet mad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob Posted October 16, 2015 Report Share Posted October 16, 2015 he's always had worms, even has a home recipe for getting rid of them ( sleeps with a cucumber up him ) attracts them overnight and feeds them to his cichlids claims he gets them from sitting on public toilets ????? give up that salt rubbish and go back to what your good at !!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidg Posted October 16, 2015 Report Share Posted October 16, 2015 Okay worms and crabs, hhmmmmm was there live rock used? Or maybe quite active base rock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borntobreed Posted October 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2015 Mmmmmmmm Yes Liquid ...... live rock... I didnt know any better at the time.. I do now. Hahaaa Scottsy ! , I am still doing wat I am good at... My right forearm is huge these days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidg Posted October 16, 2015 Report Share Posted October 16, 2015 You did the right thing as you were directed to do, all the major sites will tell you to use live rock, they have been for over 15 years full on 25 years leading up to that, you were just doing what the "gurus" told you to do, seems to make sense on the surface! Money runs the net and egos runs the rest and money came up with live rock! Mate I tried to convey the issues with live rock many years ago and when you read their well worded responses, how can you logically go against that form of direction and side with a shmuck like myself. They have to learn the hard way and give up once spending heaps or change their gear and pay more, its all about getting your foot in and making them pay more! The same with canister filters and undergravel filters, they have potential to be great, but they do not, if they were, the work with add on bits and maintenance to make them work great would put folks off, so they look for a simple all in one sort of set it ups and off they go, its been that way since I got into this! A hobbyist is their own worst enemy and the well spoken know how to work it, "real well" till so many are preaching for them that its a way of life now and so the sheep follow suit. Live rock is an unknown commodity, maybe it will work out right for you, maybe not and those ones that had success or say they did and didn't or spent heaps and don't tell you that yet that they forked out heaps over time making up for the live rocks failings, they are every where preaching how well it worked, but the ones that found its failings shut up usually and just fade into the background! And on the money machine goes and rolls over many hobbyists that could have better results and more reasons to smile about reefing! The ball is rolling on this and a few other draw backs to the hobby that larger sites are perpetuating, but the sites else where are very hard to bring into line and protect hobbyists from them selves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
african-cichlids Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 Iv read númerous articles about these worms as I new well was told by many that these are harmfull to our tanks. But a lot of the articles iv read have said that are not a bad thing for our tanks. Which do you believe because I had 2 I found in my tank from corals that iv bought (as I didn't start with live rock) and iv gotten rid of them but iv just come across one more and iv left him in there and he hasn't posed a threat yet. All my corals are doing great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidg Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 (edited) Iv read númerous articles about these worms as I new well was told by many that these are harmfull to our tanks. But a lot of the articles iv read have said that are not a bad thing for our tanks. Which do you believe because I had 2 I found in my tank from corals that iv bought (as I didn't start with live rock) and iv gotten rid of them but iv just come across one more and iv left him in there and he hasn't posed a threat yet. All my corals are doing great The only way to be sure is to soak in RO for a week or so or boil base rock then add it. Did you RO or use that coral rinse stuff for your corals or quarantine them for a while? Gottta check the base of them just in case as well! I don't trust any worms, bar feather dusters. Edited October 17, 2015 by liquidg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
african-cichlids Posted October 18, 2015 Report Share Posted October 18, 2015 No I didn't do any quarantine more did I dip them liquidg my stupid fault once again but I can't see it harming anything ATM (touch wood) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam07 Posted October 18, 2015 Report Share Posted October 18, 2015 I always assumed these worms didn't do to much harm and actually do good keeping the sand bed moving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidg Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 (edited) I always assumed these worms didn't do to much harm and actually do good keeping the sand bed moving Some do some don't, but are you prepared to take the risk as I have in the past? Time will teach you some interesting stuff with this hobby and the worst lessons are the ones that are not learnt, but are happening and we are not aware of them but they are lowering the results we could have had. Sand? The best sand bed is some secured from anything getting to it, bar the nitrogen cycles components. If the sand is moving so are the areas of bacteria, its not good to have the cycles bacteria interfered with due to its acidic life style and if anything moves through the sand and eats anything, what ever is eaten, it is waste again as faeces, down in the sand! If you have sand where life can die or shed above it or in it or is fed above, in time it is useless unless it is minimal or reverse flowed with clean water and or is syphoned regularly. In the ocean it is completely different compared to our tanks, the parts per million of nasties out there equates to nothing, In our tanks it is horrendous and the need to reduce this is paramount! Edited October 19, 2015 by liquidg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netty_3164 Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 Some do some don't, but are you prepared to take the risk as I have in the past?! Totally agree with anything that eats anything will just produce waste again. With the bristle-worms, anything particular reason why some are 'bad'? The issue I have with them is that I seem to always get some relatively itchy and *****ly bristles lodged in my fingers whenever I'm fragging or rearranging the liverock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidg Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 (edited) The issue is which ones right! Okay all are harmful to you, your corals and or your fish. "potentially" as they will get out of hand! Then you have the potential whopper the euclid and the Oenone fulgida as just two nasties! If it is a potential threat, why take the risk? Its impossible to convey to you why you can not employ open ocean activities to control your tank, well not in say just 50 thousand words any way! In the ocean all is controlled-culled by the next guy and then the next guy and this can not work in your aquarium. If you are only in this hobby for a few months or a year then go for it with what ever, it means nothing then, its the long term that counts and one bristle worm is not going to stay at "just one" then if you get its predator in there like a wrasse maybe, then no tube worms or harmless inverts or small fish will survive and so and so on!! Of course if you tear your tank down each 6 months and clear out what you do not want, then its all good, your tank will crash and never be stable, but you will have over abundant semi invasive species, under control. They say they are good clean up crew,lol, they eat then they take a dump and pee, then they say the corals eat that waste, what a load of rubbish, oh and off goes the pee to feed rubbish algae, inverts other then corals excrete stacks of urea,then the bacteria that envelopes the solid waste in the first place is far more edible to corals then what the worms pooh out, planktonic bacteria as in as the bacteria leave that waste or breed too much then leave or what you stir up is seriously good stuff for corals. Edited October 20, 2015 by liquidg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
