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Ivanacara adoketa (zebra acara)

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Hi all, i was gifted a pair and a spare male adokea a little while back from a great bloke.

I'm wondering if there is many around?

I haven't seen any for sale for years and haven't heard anyone mention them either.

I'm hoping to get the pair breeding soon, I've just started feeding them on live shrimp from some tanks I'm closing down.

My tank is full of tannins so I had to steal a pic from google, it's a male in breeding colours

Cheers mick

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great fish mate and good luck :pop2:

I was looking into these guys a little whiles back and looking around they seemed quite rare and pretty hard to find so good luck mate and hope you get some underwater action(of the looove kind :beer: )...Id definitely be interested in offspring in the future..just saying :eyebrows: :eyebrows: :beer:

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I'm using a mix of ro and tap water, i also added a heap of ial and I have duckweed on the surface to drop the light levels further.

I done alot of reading before I got them so the tank was setup right, they were breeding in gold coast tap water which is alot lower in minerals than Brisbane water so I have matched what they are acclimatised to.

This is one fish I'm happy that we don't get wild caught after reading up on the natural environment it would be a struggle to match it.

Now I'm going to try some trickery to mimic the dry then wet season and hope.

Cheers mick

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Hi all, i was gifted a pair and a spare male adokea a little while back from a great bloke.

I'm wondering if there is many around?

I haven't seen any for sale for years and haven't heard anyone mention them either.

I'm hoping to get the pair breeding soon, I've just started feeding them on live shrimp from some tanks I'm closing down.

My tank is full of tannins so I had to steal a pic from google, it's a male in breeding colours

Cheers mick

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Any updates on these smicko?

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Any updates on these smicko?

The only update is that they have coloured up nicely and the female looks keen to breed. I've been feeding them mossie larvae, shrimp and Sera foods.

Here is a pic of the female with the male in the cave in the background, hopefully I will have some breeding action soon.

Cheers mick

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Sand substrate. Some gnarley driftwood branches, and a good scattering of IAL. Use filtered rain water. I like using mopani rootwood with some nice cave structures to them. Maybe some Java fern glued to the rootwood if it can handle the low, acidic pH.

Feed live blackworms and mossie larvae. And if you're in an area where they breed, live bloodworms (sandfly/midge larvae). And if you have them, any of your cherry shrimp culls.

That's what I would try any way.

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and if that doesn't work then turn the lights down low, put on some james brown mood music and give them some privacy. maybe they are shy in front of the camera. lol. OR maybe put a dividewr in the tank and put the spare male in so that it might stir the juices a bit, it might be of another persuasian. lol

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Thanks peeps, i have added a couple of pieces driftwood and ial in the last couple of weeks, I've been using rainwater and even doing waterchanges with rainwater whilst it's raining.

I will add some more wood and I might make half the tank sand once the shops open again.

I've been feeding freeze dried blackworm, mozzie larvae and so many shrimp they are getting bored with them so I will try more live foods.

I can't add the other as he died about 2 weeks after I got them, he wasn't very happy after losing his girl and I've read that they mate for life.

Wish me luck,

Cheers mick

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What about dividing the tank and putting a pair of acara on the other side. I know from a while ago I had some firemouths that wouldn't spawn and Bill Denton said put a pair of convicts in the tank. This caused a bit of territorial dispute but lo and behold after a couple days the firemouths spawned and raised a good spawning of fry. Don't know if it was the addition of the convicts, setting territories or what but it was sage advice that worked for me.

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What about dividing the tank and putting a pair of acara on the other side. I know from a while ago I had some firemouths that wouldn't spawn and Bill Denton said put a pair of convicts in the tank. This caused a bit of territorial dispute but lo and behold after a couple days the firemouths spawned and raised a good spawning of fry. Don't know if it was the addition of the convicts, setting territories or what but it was sage advice that worked for me.

I used to do something similar when breeding dovii

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Do you have actual values for pH and TDS/conductivity? The rocks (?) and empty snail shells may push up your GH/TDS

Even if they have allegedly bred in GC tap water, they will still be easier to spawn in water closer to their natural habitat.

From all descriptions I have read they seem to be specialised for leaf litter areas with extremely low pH and TDS. The water conductivity/TDS reported in some of their habitats is lower even than for your regular RO water.

To avoid all possibilities of the GH getting pushed up, I would remove all rock, gravel and snails and cover the bottom with a thick layer of wood and leaves. They are not really cave spawners so you won't need a special cave. Keeping the light low as you do is also good.

Just RO with IAL and DW alone will not necessarily get the pH low enough so you may have to lower it further by adding an acid source. There will be a trade off with conductivity, which will rise again a bit so you could try just pure RO without adding anything for a while to see if that is enough before switching to lower pH. The best way I found to lower pH without affecting conductivity too much is to use a mixture of hydrochloric acid and citric acid. Don't use any of the commercial pH downers, they add too much crap in the water and will raise TDS a lot more.

The addition of some target/dither fish that can tolerate the low TDS/pH conditions will also help the pair to bond, pencil fish are a good option as they generally are not fry predators.

hth

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Thanks [MENTION=4633]regani[/MENTION], i appreciate your input.

I have been slowly moving over to straight rainwater, I've been going slowly so I don't crash the ph. The parameters at the moment are ph 6.4, Gh 4, Tds 140.

My ro system puts out ph 6, Tds 0 so I can lower if need be.

Here is a pic of how it's looking since I added more wood, leaves and duckweed in the last few weeks.

Cheers mick

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Thanks [MENTION=4633]regani[/MENTION], i appreciate your input.

I have been slowly moving over to straight rainwater, I've been going slowly so I don't crash the ph. The parameters at the moment are ph 6.4, Gh 4, Tds 140.

My ro system puts out ph 6, Tds 0 so I can lower if need be.

I'd try to push both even lower over the next little while. I wouldn't worry about the pH crashing, that is basically what you want. In their natural habitats pH values as low as pH 4 have been measured. The TDS could be quite a bit lower as well, but really low values may be difficult to achieve while lowering the pH as mentioned in the earlier post.

I'll keep my fingers crossed. Maybe with the rain coming through over the next couple days..

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The dream is over. My female died a couple of days ago, no fight marks or signs of being unhealthy so I guess it's just one of things that happens from time to time.

Thanks to everyone who gave input along the journey, it is appreciated.

Cheers mick

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