TheAquaHolic001 Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 (edited) ...... Edited November 2, 2015 by TheAquaHolic001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve6610 Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 so these were bred from a L144 male and common female ? if so, they are hybrids, so can't be called L144 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smicko Posted November 1, 2015 Report Share Posted November 1, 2015 I agree but if we are going to be honest about it all L144 should be called luecostic bn. Pretty sure only one 144 was found in the wild and we could guarantee it didn't end up in aus. Cheers mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve6610 Posted November 1, 2015 Report Share Posted November 1, 2015 I agree but if we are going to be honest about it all L144 should be called luecostic bn. Pretty sure only one 144 was found in the wild and we could guarantee it didn't end up in aus. Cheers mick thats interesting, have to be honest i never did get into these guys much, so if i breed a male with my common female i will get some of each ? i do have a male here with half a tail, never bothered getting him a girl due to his lack of tail, lol but might give him a common girl and see what happens, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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steve6610 Posted November 1, 2015 Report Share Posted November 1, 2015 I'm pretty sure I can call them l144's as there are 4 commons and the rest are as pictured, if they were all commons then I wouldn't of posted.Cheers, TheAquaHolic001 but what if somebody buys some and breeds them and they breed common bn ? i know i'd be peeved as all hell, just think you should call them as they are, L144 x common, don't get me wrong, i'm not saying you shouldn't breed them or even sell them, just make sure the buyers know what they are buying, i'd be interested in seeing better pics of parents and fry when they get bigger, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smicko Posted November 1, 2015 Report Share Posted November 1, 2015 [MENTION=4423]steveandjules[/MENTION], I'm sure you could. I wouldn't cross them but I'm a little old fashioned. It's getting harder to find commons that don't have albino gene and longfins are even worse. As you know it's always better to keep things as pure as possible. [MENTION=16220]TheAquaHolic001[/MENTION], if you plan on selling them be honest about the parentage. I would be fairly angry if i paid for 144 and they threw common babies or vice versa and I'm sure plenty others would be as well. Realistically they are not going to be worth much so just keep them as tank cleaners. Cheers mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve6610 Posted November 1, 2015 Report Share Posted November 1, 2015 agree [MENTION=885]smicko[/MENTION], but i do need a lot of tank cleaners lol, so i might just give it a go, 1 batch to see if he can breed and then i can buy him a girlfriend lol, he lost 1/2 his tail in a rock fall in his tank, i'm just getting back into breeding some different bn again, i do believe its almost to late to get pure commons, but i'm hoping i have a few still in my tanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFishkeeper Posted November 1, 2015 Report Share Posted November 1, 2015 [MENTION=4423]steveandjules[/MENTION] I still have some pure commons here, Steve, I'm sure I can find you a nice young female or two if you can't find any in your tanks Cheers, Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smicko Posted November 1, 2015 Report Share Posted November 1, 2015 I'm fairly sure I still have one pair of pure commons but I need to fish them out of the pond to be sure. I just got some common longfin in the hopes they are pure. Hopefully he will breed for you [MENTION=4423]steveandjules[/MENTION]. Cheers mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve6610 Posted November 1, 2015 Report Share Posted November 1, 2015 [MENTION=4423]steveandjules[/MENTION]I still have some pure commons here, Steve, I'm sure I can find you a nice young female or two if you can't find any in your tanks Cheers, Doug thanks doug, i saved some of your fry i got last time, they are all just coming up to breeding size now, but will keep it in mind if i need some more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFishkeeper Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 thanks doug, i saved some of your fry i got last time, they are all just coming up to breeding size now, but will keep it in mind if i need some more All good Steve, I no longer consciously breed my commons, but still have quite a few juveniles and adults spread around the fishroom and am regularly finding eggs and small fry in some of the tanks that I just leave to be eaten, so there are definitely some breeders here I've had this strain here for many years and have only ever had commons in my fishroom, so the strain is definitely pure. Happy to help you out if I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lictoga Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 so you bread a hybrid not L144 its the same as me crossing a midas and a red devil then selecting the ones that look like either and calling them as such. you made f1 hybrids nothing more. poor form dude and they say facebook is the reason the hobby is in the toilet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jase86uxb Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 [MENTION=11301]Lictoga[/MENTION] is right dude ur just breeding hybrids plain and simple......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smicko Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 You might as well get a female now, it will take 1-2 years to grow them out and even if all the babies look the same they will still carry the common gene and it could come out in future generations. Because the common gene is dominant it would take a fair few generations to make sure they no longer carry it. This thread gave me the motivation to clean the pond, a few hundred bn and no albino, no longfin . Stoked with finally finding a clean pair I can only hope my longfin pair is as good. Cheers mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquaholic99 Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 The "common" bristle nose that we have in Australia is also a hybrid. Just to keep this discussion about purity in perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAquaHolic001 Posted November 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 you made f1 hybrids nothing more. poor form dude and they say facebook is the reason the hobby is in the toilet Bred is spelt bred not bread lol. But I'm just going to watch threads not post or any of the sort unless I'm buying or selling fish, I've been put off posting now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lictoga Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 Bred is spelt bred not bread lol. But I'm just going to watch threads not post or any of the sort unless I'm buying or selling fish, I've been put off posting now. well there ya go we both learnt somthing today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
