Asdfyuiop Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 Hi all, I used a couple of traps in Hilliards Creek over the weekend. I caught a few fish including the one in the attached photo. Could anyone help to ID it? I think it's fairly common. Is anyone able to provide advice on Identifying the fish myself? Thanks for your help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grubby Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 Fire tail gudgeon. What else did you get ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lictoga Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 yep fire tail. angfa is good if you want to lern about natives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asdfyuiop Posted November 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 Here are some more photos. I think they all must be firetailed gudgeons (other than the shrimp). I was hoping to find some rainbows or blue eyes, maybe next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asdfyuiop Posted November 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 Sorry about the photo orientation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 I'd say it's an female Empire gudgeon.... It's too big for a firetail....??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netty_3164 Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 Yup, I say female empire gudgeon or subdominant male empire gudgeon too based on -black blotchy square markings along the lateral line -terrible photo but the 2nd last photo, u see white spots in the dorsal fin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asdfyuiop Posted November 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 Thanks for the replies everyone. Sorry about the photo quality, I'll have to get some more photos after dark when there isn't any glare. Are there any good books for identifying local native fish? I'm getting mixed messages searching on the internet. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 Go to ANGFA web site.... Australian New Guinea Fishes Association Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netty_3164 Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 Can't think of any good books on top of my head but my quick edit of a photo taken off the Australian Museum website green & blue: black markings along lateral line and black spot @ the edge of gill which can be evident or fade completely red: white spots always seen on dorsal and tail btw, if you've managed to catch any males (from the pics, it seems you've just caught the more blander females), you'd be suprised how much they can colour up when sparing or fighting over food. These are some grubby and myself caught a few years back in the Redland Bay/Ormiston area (grubby can confirm) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grubby Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 keep the lids secure, they have a tendency for suicide like nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
none Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 Hi there are definitely some males you have there. First photo is a male and third photo on your second post shows one male. Males don't fully colour up until around 5cm. Males will drop their colours when stressed - being caught a key stressor. As @netty_3164 mentioned - very colourful fish when coloured and a fantastic display fish. Empires CAN grow to around 12cm but normally not that big. Commonly to 8-9cm. Great eaters of mosquito larvae in ponds. Easy to breed but fry need copious amounts of micro foods and as such not the easiest fish to raise. Easily distinguished from Firetails by the reticulated pattern on the scales and the barring in the fins. Head shape also completely different. Peaceful community fish with all but the smallest of species. Great mix for tanks with med-lge Rainbows. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grubby Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 Hi there are definitely some males you have there. First photo is a male and third photo on your second post shows one male. Males don't fully colour up until around 5cm. Males will drop their colours when stressed - being caught a key stressor. As @netty_3164 mentioned - very colourful fish when coloured and a fantastic display fish. Empires CAN grow to around 12cm but normally not that big. Commonly to 8-9cm. Great eaters of mosquito larvae in ponds. Easy to breed but fry need copious amounts of micro foods and as such not the easiest fish to raise. Easily distinguished from Firetails by the reticulated pattern on the scales and the barring in the fins. Head shape also completely different. Peaceful community fish with all but the smallest of species. Great mix for tanks with med-lge Rainbows. Cheers I keep em with Pacific Blue eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
