Lockymck Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 Hi. Yesterday i added macropore ( in the bags) to the canister filters on both my tanks. Got home from work tonight to find both my tanks cloudy/milky. Can anyone tell me if this is normal? Will or should it clear up in a few days? Should i remove the macropore? sent from sony xperia via tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heintz.G Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 Did you give it a good rinse before adding it to you filters? if not that's why, it should clear up in a day or two, just do a water change and all should be ok again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lictoga Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 Did you do anything else. Is this new macropore or did you recharge it with bleach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockymck Posted November 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 Brand new macropore, rinsed thoroughly and soaked for a few hours before adding to filters. No other maintanance done. sent from sony xperia via tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase86uxb Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 Interesting I have used macropore in many of my tanks and havnt had this happen to me..... Maybe [MENTION=6981]TEC[/MENTION]hden or @Donny@ageofaquariums can help abit more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smicko Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 Wrong tag for [MENTION=1338]The Tech Den[/MENTION] and [MENTION=9246]Donny@ageofaquariums[/MENTION] has been AWOL this month, maybe the robot needed recharging. [MENTION=11475]Jase86uxb[/MENTION] you get a 9 for effort, a 6 for difficulty but only a 3 for execution bgomf. Cheers mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase86uxb Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 Bahahaha I knew ud come along to help me out [MENTION=885]smicko[/MENTION]isonthecase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smicko Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 So i contribute something worthwhile, I haven't had this issue with macropore. It's supposed to do the opposite and polish the water. Have you done a head count? Could be something dead creating ammonia or too much food? I would do a full range of tests to try and get an idea of what's going on. Post the results if you like, it might give some clues. Cheers mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heintz.G Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 (edited) Was the water prior to putting it the filter cloudy? if not do as [MENTION=885]smicko[/MENTION] suggested. Edit: did you clean the filters and forget to clean the gunk in the hoses, I've done that on more than occasion and ended up with cloudy water. Edited November 3, 2015 by Heintz.G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockymck Posted November 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 Water was not cloudy before. Will do full water tests and see if any issues there. No loss of fish, no increase in food. Just seems odd that both tanks have done the same thing. sent from sony xperia via tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tech Den Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 I have had a some correspondence with locky through email. There are a couple of things which was happening in more than one tank which does make you think what is the common denominator. At the same token if there was something on the resin then that would have been resolved with the rinsing and dechlorination rinse and good to see Locky doing this and although it is not needed with macropore it is a good practise and did help with taking one question out of the equation. With Macropore being a resin and as [MENTION=885]smicko[/MENTION] said above it should do the opposite and probably the only thing that I would add to that is being a water polisher it will not remove solids and where a flocculate would be good as macropore does not bind or clump solids to be caught in the filtration. Personally I am more of the thought that the milky colour that this could be more of a bacterial bloom and while there is a food source then it will generally remain for a short period. although there are products that would fix this if I am correct in what I think it is, it is also something that will also resolve itself but will take a little more time than a commercial product. Be good to see the result and look forward to Locky's tests. Once the milkyness is resolved then what the macropore will do, will show from one extreme to another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smicko Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 Great thinking 99, bacteria bloom is so obvious I missed it lol. Cheers mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockymck Posted November 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 Thanks everyone. It just seems very odd that i would get a bacteria bloom in both tanks at same time. We had a very hot day yesterday and the house was all locked up. Could the increase in temp ( both tanks were close to 30deg when i got home) have caused the bloom? sent from sony xperia via tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyllie Posted November 4, 2015 Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 I was researching Purigen a little while ago and there were a ton of cases like yours. The most reasonable explanation I found was that it contains beneficial bacteria and that combined with a new-ish tank can cause a bacterial bloom. Maybe Macropore is similar? I would imagine this is only something you would have to deal with the first time you use it because I would assume that the bleach used to clean it between uses would kill that bacteria. But you know all about assumptions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockymck Posted November 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 I was researching Purigen a little while ago and there were a ton of cases like yours. The most reasonable explanation I found was that it contains beneficial bacteria and that combined with a new-ish tank can cause a bacterial bloom. Maybe Macropore is similar? I would imagine this is only something you would have to deal with the first time you use it because I would assume that the bleach used to clean it between uses would kill that bacteria. But you know all about assumptions... Thanks for your reply, neither tank is new, one been running for years, the other for around 5 months. sent from sony xperia via tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase86uxb Posted November 4, 2015 Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 Mmmmm bacteria bloom in both tanks???? Why??? A hot day ?? Maybe ?? Still all abit odd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tech Den Posted November 4, 2015 Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 Yes it is odd as there really is not really a reason. As [MENTION=16442]Lyllie[/MENTION] mentioned with the purigen about good bacteria I do not think that a resin would be capable to carry good bacteria as it would need a food source to survive and be preloaded. It would be expected in a new tank but they are not new tanks, it could be possible if there was a big water change, or a big clean but there was not, it would be possible if media was removed to make room but there was not. I believe it will come good but it does not explain why it has happened and "should" not be a result of adding macropore and all a bit perplexing in all and the triggering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockymck Posted November 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 Got home an hour ago, latge tank with two filters has cleared up a lot, although still a little cloudy. Smaller tank (4ft) still very cloudy/ milky and two dead fish 😞 and the rest of the fish looking poor. Water tests on both tanks showed 0ppm ammonia, 0ppm nitrites and 20, 40 ppm respectavly nitrates. Done a 25%water change on the smaller tank and sinxe then, water has started to clear and fish looking more lively. Larger tank appears to have had no ill effect towards fish. Still very confused as to cause. I am leaning towards the hot temps as to the main cause for now. sent from sony xperia via tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
th3f0rg0t3n Posted November 4, 2015 Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 Have never personally even bothered too rinse brand new macropore when adding into my filters, stuff does as it should and polishes my water. When you disconnect your filtration add purigen/macropore the crap settles in the lines/chambers/hoses & bottom of the filters and usually blows back into the tank once restarted , Every single time i've disconnected a canister filter once it gets started again whether or not i've cleaned it doesn't matter it always pumps some type of crud back into my tank which generally leaves them a little cloudy. If your test results show those levels, you have nothing too worry about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
