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Hi guys I have been really wanting to get some pacific blue eyes for my pond so I can breed them and help take out mozzie larvae but I would like to catch them myself using my pa's shrimp traps. I read that you need a license to collect natives in nsw but you don't need one in qld? So if this is true what kind of license is it? Is it just a standard fishing liscense or is it a specialised one?

i have been looking around on the department of primary industry's websites but can't find anything that I understand... http://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/content/fisheries/info/section-37-permits

if I do need a special permit is it legal to collect the fish in qld and bring them back into nsw and keep them in my pond?

Any help would be much appreciated

Cheers Nicholas

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I'm not 100% sure but I think its just the normal fishing license. Just make sure you check the bag limits on the species you are chasing.

Hopefully someone else can give you a definite answer on this one.

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[MENTION=16220]TheAquaHolic001[/MENTION] the pdf you added was from 2012, however it appears to be the only place where it states the take limit. Yes I read it as 20.

Just be careful to not take the Red Finned blue eye or Honey Blue eye as they are no take on the most current Qld Dept. of Ag. & Fish. As long as you are not catching from a 'Closed Season' area, you should be fine.

However due to quarantine legislation I would be ringing the Commonwealth Department of Agriculture on 1800 020 504 just to cover yourself and make sure that you are able to take the fish across the state line.

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If Red Fin Blue Eyes are so difficult to catch that would explain why they're on the 'No take' list [MENTION=5418]thatsright99[/MENTION]

On the QuarantineDomestic.gov.au website it states that fish being sent state to state are a grey area, that needs clarification. However as Pacific Blue Eyes are not restricted in NSW, as @rainbowrunner wrote it shouldn't be a problem.

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Red fin blue eyes are on the I.U.C.N red list. They are in the top 10 most endangered animals (fish) on earth....

the incompetent idiots at a sunshine coast theme park had a licence to take a certain number to breed them but they killed 2/3 of that broodstock because they are useless and know nothing about the fish. ( read whatever out of a book and no actual fish keepers/breeders helped ! )

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I have not seen a red fin blue eye in the last almost 30 years - Surprised that there are still any around as the prime real-estate these fish like to inhabit is a first choice for property developers .

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Hi guys I have been really wanting to get some pacific blue eyes for my pond so I can breed them and help take out mozzie larvae

in my experience I catch more Blue eyes in a scoop net than in traps.

try here if your around Tweed, they love the really shallow water edges, I recognize them because they look like they have a white dot on their head from above https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-28.2268052,153.4687425,17.25z

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It says here in this site that people under the age of 18 (me) are exempt from having a fishing license so does that mean I don't need one to collect pacific blue eyes with a net or trap in nsw?

http://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/content/fisheries/recreational/licence-fee

I'd be contacting the proper authorities about this, even if you didn't have to due to age, I'd still be looking into getting it just to be safe and to do the right thing by our native fauna.

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It says here in this site that people under the age of 18 (me) are exempt from having a fishing license so does that mean I don't need one to collect pacific blue eyes with a net or trap in nsw?

http://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/content/fisheries/recreational/licence-fee

dont need one then, get some traps and a hand net let us know how you go

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I have not seen a red fin blue eye in the last almost 30 years - Surprised that there are still any around as the prime real-estate these fish like to inhabit is a first choice for property developers .

Since when has a desolate cattle station in the middle of Queensland been a first choice for property developers?

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Since when has a desolate cattle station in the middle of Queensland been a first choice for property developers?

Talking about a different fish then !

There used to be a red finned variant of (possibly )the Pacific Blue Eye ( although not verified to actually be Signifer ) a couple of creeks around Maryborough not common but in decent numbers when found .

That was 35 to 40 years ago , and my interest in natives was just curiosity as at the time I only kept and bred Discus . and was not interested in keeping other fish , but I was interested in aquatic plants and used to find Native fish in almost every creek .

By the time ( about 4 years ago ) I actually started Keeping and breeding natives - almost all of the creeks within easy driving distance are significantly damaged . I have not been able to find the fish again in recent years and one of the creeks where they used to be is now concreted ( we found no fish there at all just cane toad tadpoles )

Much has happened to our waterways in that time very little of it good .

I used to do most of my creek hopping on a trail bike so transporting fish would not have been practical . It did however work for aquatic plants .

I used to get a few natives pop up as I used to keep the plants outside in old ( round and common at the time washing machine bowls ) and eggs on the plants would hatch ( these fish would not have been saleable or any use for breeding because some of the plants may have come from Jandowae and others from Gladstone - they were sorted be water parameters , not location and any fish were accidental - but kept and fed .

Surprising how many times fry pop up on aquatic plants . I now regret not taking a larger interest at the time , as now many of both the plants and the fish are gone and my mobility is very poor and I can not get to places that I would like to revisit .

P.S.I used to have , in my earlier years a government job that took me to some very obscure places in QLD . and I always used to have a poke around while I was there .

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So.... My dad and I are planning on going out to where [MENTION=4136]rainbowrunner[/MENTION] said to go and possibly cabarita in search of natives( IF IT DOES NOT START POURING DOWN RAIN!). This is what I plan to use and I will also be using vegemite and bread as bait. Bucket is for transportation. Any natives that we catch I plan to put in this pond (hopefully pacific blue eyes).

Cheers, Nicholas

P.s excuse my dogs lol they love being in photos!

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I remember finding the red finned signifer at little yabba creek where it enters the mary river about 15 years ago. So bright they looked like cardinal tetras without the blue. Never been able to find them again. I do have some harvey creek signifer with red tails and yellow fins. Will try and post a pic.

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I remember finding the red finned signifer at little yabba creek where it enters the mary river about 15 years ago. So bright they looked like cardinal tetras without the blue. Never been able to find them again. I do have some harvey creek signifer with red tails and yellow fins. Will try and post a pic.

There are a number of localities of the northern version of the "Pacific" Blue eye that have red tails. Haven't seen solid red in Harvey Ck but many other lesser known spots. Have seen a semi-reddish fin there though. I've got heaps of videos of them in the wild but haven''t had a chance to edit. 'Red finned Pacifics' can be found in some creeks around bayside Brisbane. In tanks they often lose the red and go bright orange. They are very similar to the Tin Can Bay type (as referred to above). I believe the red is a way of attracting females in the muddy water they inhabit - just as the long extensions on the northern species do the same in rapidly moving water.

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This is what I caught... 10 young pacific blue eyes? And saw another larger species but didn't get any of them... Caught these guys at bilambil creek with the traps in quite shallow water with some large rocks in it that they used as cover. Can you guys please confirm this? I took a piece of paper with pictures of pacific blue eyes and also gambusia and compared them and came to the conclusion that they are young pacific blue eyes as in the tank that I moved them to temporarily to they have bright blue eyes, I will try to get better photos as they are a little stressed right now...

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