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Recently moved house so i sold my fish and threw out most of my sump. Decided to give earth eaters a go. Added sand so excuse the cloudiness. Its a aquareef 400 with custom sump. 

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Here is my current sump setup. Still not finished,  more media and my new heater is on its way. 

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Sump is a bit cloudy from sand. Just need some more media for 2nd chamber and more marine pure balls for 2nd last chamber. 

Going to be updating this as i go. Feel free to chip in with ideas or advice as i go. 

 

Thanks!! 

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Recently moved house so i sold my fish and threw out most of my sump. Decided to give earth eaters a go. Added sand so excuse the cloudiness. Its a aquareef 400 with custom sump. 
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Here is my current sump setup. Still not finished,  more media and my new heater is on its way. 
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Sump is a bit cloudy from sand. Just need some more media for 2nd chamber and more marine pure balls for 2nd last chamber. 
Going to be updating this as i go. Feel free to chip in with ideas or advice as i go. 

Thanks!! 

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Looks good mate! How big is your tank and how many have you got? What tank mates do you have also? 
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Curved front 5 ft by two ft. I had 8 fish but lost one early on. They were only 7cm when i got them and now all are 15-20cm. Coloured up very nice. They have paired up and tried breeding multiple times, with fry only the once. Sad to say, none survived.
I have had algae eaters in with them at times to clean up a black beard outbreak and also had a 25cm goldspot gibicep at one stage. But i prefer to keep them on their own

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Was thinking this for stock:

- 8 tapajos to start off with and settle with 6. Just so if i need to remove a couple due to aggression or too many males etc. 

- maybe 10 lemon tetras

- maybe a couple apistos

- 2 peppermint bristlenoses

- 2 L397s

Thats all i have thought of so far. 

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Did a 80% water change to clear the big cloud i had. Found 2 old wavemakers in the garage so i chucked them in for circulation and in an hour they had cleaned up most the debris ontop of the sand. Probably wont keep them when i get the other fish they are too strong. Might get a weak one for better circulation though.  Should be able to add fish in 2 weeks time. 

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My seiryu rocks and 300w eheim heater arrived today. Havent used seiryu before looks good in the tank, doing another 80% water change should be the last water change to get rid of the slight cloudiness from sand. I should have enough wood and rocks to do some scaping once the last 3 pieces sink properly. Cant wait for 2 weeks time so i can start adding fish!! 

@tutters187 hows the tapajo hunt going? Haha

@raycam01_au to keep the site "active" you should "donate" some of those peppermint flavoured fish sticks, for the "community" 

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6 would be a good number of adults to end up with. Make sure you get quality. Alot of rubbish OH going around these days. People just breed for a buck and not worrying about quality. If you buy fry make sure you see the parents.

Personally I would go with alot more tetra. Once they are in a big school that is when they look impressive. 30 is a nice number. 

Apistos when paired up and breeding are super aggressive so be careful with catfish. 

If you did not want apistos you could also go a nice school of corys.

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Geos and tetras, such a nice combo. Great effect when you have big slow moving fish with their trailing fins and lairy colours, with a cloud of tiny fast splotches zooming in and out around them. I think you're on the money with lemon tetras though, would be an awesome contrast. Wickkjr has a point with the numbers, I'd definitely up it from 10. Would look a bit sparse if you had 6 15cm+ fish and 10 5cm fish to offset it in the main water area. I don't think the Apistos could really do too much to the loricariids, they're pretty tough. I've seen them live along side terrors like Convicts and Red Devils without looking any worse for wear for it. A big enough tank and the catfish will just move on outside the Apistos territory... in theory :roll:

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18 minutes ago, wickkyjr said:

6 would be a good number of adults to end up with. Make sure you get quality. Alot of rubbish OH going around these days. People just breed for a buck and not worrying about quality. If you buy fry make sure you see the parents.

Personally I would go with alot more tetra. Once they are in a big school that is when they look impressive. 30 is a nice number. 

Apistos when paired up and breeding are super aggressive so be careful with catfish. 

If you did not want apistos you could also go a nice school of corys.

Only wanted to get like 1 or 2 male apistogrammas, so wont have to worry about breeding. 

So what about this for stocking

6 tapajos (whats a good m to f ratio?)

1-2 different variety apisto

2-3 variety of  small plecos

30 tetra? 

 

Thats alot more than i thought 

 

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I'd look at 2 male 4 female, but Jr is a lot more schooled on Geos than myself.

The 20 extra tetras won't add a big bioload to the tank. Taking away 2 of the Geos from 8 to 6 would more than negate any ill effects in that regard. Just make sure you have plenty of filter (which you do).

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Picking up 8 pieces of anubias on Friday and im going to zip tie most of my smaller and medium size wood together to try and make 1 long continuous piece with anubias ontop tied down. Plan is to make the driftwood have next to little  contact with the sand and just use rocks to break line of sight with fishes. And use which ever wavemakers the fish can handle to try and pool debris into 1 spot.

End idea is 2 nice schooling groups 1 being tapajos and 1 tetras. And having a flawlessly clean sand substrate with nice open floor space in the shade under driftwood with plants on top. Might be abit fiddly but when im done i wont need to move  driftwood when cleaning tank and it should let the tapajos sift the whole floor space. 

 

Keen as a bean! 

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Only wanted to get 8 so i could make sure i got the ratio right then i could take 2 way. Oppossed to getting 6 and having too many males. 

 

I reckon my next water change should get it crystal and ive got another order from the techden im going to put in tonight with the last of my filter media i need to finish off sump(more sponge more marine pure balls and macropore) 

Cant wait to get rid of these gudgeons and elodea haha

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Yeah get the 8 and then sort out M/F ratio. All depends on how much colour you want. Obviously males have alot more colour. 2 males will be fine.

As eric said, extra 20 won't make much difference in bioload. But will look impressive.

Don't ziptie. Either very light fishing line or some super glue.

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43 minutes ago, Eric A said:

I really should go for a look again sometime, last time I was rushed and wasn't buying. I need some neons and bolivian rams soon.

Have never been but want to go next time ive got enough free time to pop up there. 

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Well lots of things happened which had stopped me from continuing this tank thread 6+ months ago. But finally back into it and picked up 7 young geophagus araguaia from the tech den on Sunday. They range from 6-8cm with one of them being 10cm.

Also have 26 buenos aires tetras in there aswell, going to grab another 4 soon. 

Rest of the  Stocking i was thinking 

4 otocinclus 

2 small to medium sized species plecos

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On 28/01/2018 at 7:54 PM, joller said:

source some live black worms and dump them all in the tank, then they'll be sifting sand for hours

I might give that a go. 

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