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I ordered some red eyed red swords from Livefish.  Will be interested to see what they are like.  

For me this fish is a connection back to my father who bred a lyre tail red eyed red back when I was about 5.  He then got rid of all his work to that point and failed to breed them on....  

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Nice, there's some great examples online of red eyed red swords. I wonder how the livefish ones are? I have brought from them but only really stock that doesn't vary in quality like some selectively bred fish. I would of brought my own Blood Red Highfin Swordtails from natfish months ago but they were out of stock and couldn't give me a re-stock date. If you check them out they have Blood Red Lyretail Swordtails instead now, I think the color was slightly better in the Highfins but you don't know what these fish have been feed on and any variance between individuals.

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So I ordered 6 and when the bag arrive 4 were alive.  2 were DOA.  Livefish have promptly promised a refund in line with their policy.  

I know previously Red eyed reds came in and Pet City got some and lost the lot.  They seem sensitive.  

I have one boy, one who may be bi, and maybe two girls.  One in particular is stressed and shimmying.  Debating giving them a multicure type treatment, as I often think a treatment does more bad than good.  Concentrating on good feeds, good water.  

Th colour is fantastic in these fish as the red really pops due to the albino gene.  

@QldMick I saw the Blood red lyretails on line.  I am not sure of the genetics of these.   Look good.  i need more tanks.  

@johnbetta  If i get fry after I have enough for me I will throw some your and Micks way.  The girls seem more stressed than the boys so at the moment I am doubtful.  If I lose the girls I will be hunting an albino female and try that cross.  

 

 

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14 hours ago, gingerbeer said:

So I ordered 6 and when the bag arrive 4 were alive.  2 were DOA.  Livefish have promptly promised a refund in line with their policy.  

I know previously Red eyed reds came in and Pet City got some and lost the lot.  They seem sensitive.  

I have one boy, one who may be bi, and maybe two girls.  One in particular is stressed and shimmying.  Debating giving them a multicure type treatment, as I often think a treatment does more bad than good.  Concentrating on good feeds, good water.  

Th colour is fantastic in these fish as the red really pops due to the albino gene.  

@QldMick I saw the Blood red lyretails on line.  I am not sure of the genetics of these.   Look good.  i need more tanks.  

@johnbetta  If i get fry after I have enough for me I will throw some your and Micks way.  The girls seem more stressed than the boys so at the moment I am doubtful.  If I lose the girls I will be hunting an albino female and try that cross.  

 

 

Unless outcrossed, albino lines are generally quite weak. Also, most linebred varieties regardless of albinism have a lack of genetic diversity so are a fair bit more delicate. 

Correct me if I am wrong. But when breeding lyretails, dont you need a male that doesnt express the lyretail gene and bred to female lyretails? I was under the impression the males lose any function with their gonopodium? 

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On 01/04/2021 at 7:14 PM, gingerbeer said:

So I ordered 6 and when the bag arrive 4 were alive.  2 were DOA.  Livefish have promptly promised a refund in line with their policy.  

I know previously Red eyed reds came in and Pet City got some and lost the lot.  They seem sensitive.  

I have one boy, one who may be bi, and maybe two girls.  One in particular is stressed and shimmying.  Debating giving them a multicure type treatment, as I often think a treatment does more bad than good.  Concentrating on good feeds, good water.  

Th colour is fantastic in these fish as the red really pops due to the albino gene.  

@QldMick I saw the Blood red lyretails on line.  I am not sure of the genetics of these.   Look good.  i need more tanks.  

@johnbetta  If i get fry after I have enough for me I will throw some your and Micks way.  The girls seem more stressed than the boys so at the moment I am doubtful.  If I lose the girls I will be hunting an albino female and try that cross.  

 

 

Hey Gingerbeer I picked up some albino koi swordtails from Pet City when they were new and they weren't very hardy.

Thanks for the offer of these guys but am going in a similar direction with Albino Dragon Blood Peacocks(as seen in my other posts) I might grow out a big batch of these guys and try and get the reddest males I can, my male is from a different source than my females and they all seem pretty hardy.

Good luck with your breeding, you could specifically ask Natfish for a couple of Lyretail females, mixing your genes up a bit while your incorporating the lyretail gene.

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