cycindahead Posted December 25, 2009 Report Share Posted December 25, 2009 Toying with the idea of breeding plecos, how difficult is it? I figure if I succeed at that L numbers are next. What is the best set up, timber and so on. Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetpetz Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 Hi Tony, Plecos are easy to breed if you have a big enough earthen pond and mature healthy fish. They prefer to breed in a mud burrow. It'll be almost impossible to get a DPI licence though, so best to keep it to yourself. Good money if you do it well though. L-numbers get easier to breed each generation (even bristles used to be hard to breed many years ago). Starting with locally bred fish should give you no problems if you're patient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cycindahead Posted December 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 DPI licence to breed fish?, do I need a licence to breed everything? I like to do things by the book. I will have to look into this further. Thanks for the heads up. Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asxu Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 As far as I am aware, and to quote this thread - the "10 000L rule" exists: With all that is going on in the industry at the moment alot of hobbyist breeders are pushing this limit. Nsw has just implemented this and Qld has had it for a couple of years. IN basic you can have Under 10 000l to be called a hobbyist breeder this includes storage. Once you go 10 000.5l's You must become registered with the DPI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batters Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 hey champ start with common bristlenose that way you'll get an idea of how things work and wont be thrown off with failure. if you've already tried them give common plecos or the cheapers L numbers a go they will breed in tanks just try and get a little advice from breeders. your all good and well with in the rules breeding a few plecos as they said less than 10000L and you cant breed for the sole purpose of making money. there are a few more rules available from the Qld dpi to qualify as a hobbyist breeder. if you want the aquaculture licsence its a bit of work, but you can get it for free providing you follow the guidlines. exotic fish must be kept in an enclosed building totaly rainproof, so no breeding outdoors, you have to declare all equipement that will be used, they can check you 'facility' any time they wish and you have to declare all earnings each year even if they are nil. + some more. you also have to submit an aquaculture management plan and an aquaculture site management plan amoung other things. its all to much work for most of us. the only problem with being a 'hobbyist' is anything you sell your suppost to pay tax on. but then again anything you sell at a garage sale your suppost to pay tax on as well. all in all have fun, you can also call the dpi for any enquiries, theres two people that deal with aquaculture enquiries, i think one is called max wingfield, but if they dont have an answer for you they'll put you onto someone that does. cheers mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cycindahead Posted December 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 Bloody hell, I was thinking of breeding something easy to offset the power bills, not for a living. I assumed L numbers were expensive because of difficulty breeding them, and I could help by introducing new bloodlines,by offsetting the costs with plecos and the like. I'm not interested in profits, just breaking even, and helping get the rarer L numbers population up. As someone who now follows the law (apart from speeding) I guess its out of the question.Thanks for the info, you probably saved me from some hefty fines. Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asxu Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 A 10000 litre system is a lot! Just some quick maths: average 2 foot tank is 60 litres, meaning you could have around 145 tanks, a 1000 litre IBC (intermediate bulk container, for water changes), and a fairly sizeable sump and still be under the 10000 litre limit. 60 * 145 (tanks) + 1000 (IBC) + 100 (sump) = 9800 litres. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cycindahead Posted December 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 My cunning plan was to breed plecos in a 4ft, using a 6ft as a grow out tank, and selling them small (3-5cm) for a few bucks each. Next was to buy some Ls to do the same, then rarer Ls, selling the breeding pairs as I went. It was supposed to be a long term plan, to continue to keep fish, with little to no output of cash. That is only 1000 litres of water, unless I did the 1000 ltr tubs to grow them bigger, which would be 2000ltrs, well under the limit. Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristlenose_boy93 Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Hi Tony Try starting off with some of the cheaper hardier L's. you could start of with bristlenose if you like, but they are not challenge L002, L397 and L333's are some of the easier L cats that you could breed, and you can purchase them at a very reasonable price. L002 = Usually $40-60 for 3-4cm fry L397 = Usually $75-85 for 3-4cm fry L333 = Usually $75-85 for 3-4cm fry Prices and sizes do vary from which breeder you buy them from and what quantity Hope this has helped Etienne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
