jasz74 Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 hi so i noticed yesterday morning that my largest shubunkin had a white filmy stuff all over his body and didnt rush up and push all the other fish out the way when fed them. so i took him out of the tank and put in shallow water in a bucket used only for the fish tank. he was swimming ok when i left went to pet store and got fungus and fin rot medication. the woman in the store said may as well treat them all so when i got home i did a 25% water change and put big daddy back in. did the treatment as per instructions on back which sent the tank a wonderful shade of emerald green kinda freaked me out and i dont think the fish liked it either!! they were all sitting on the bottom and hiding behind the plants when i went to bed but the other 2 did come up for dinner earlier. this morning he didnt have the white filmy stuff on him he just looked pale not bright orange and black like normally is. was just sitting on bottom of tank and same again didnt eat but the other 2 did. when i got home this arvo he was lying on his side at the bottom of his tank, seems ok breathing wise and can moved around the bottom. so i removed him and put him in the bucket again. should i put him back in the tank and do water change in 2 days like the instructions say to do or leave him isolated. if i leave him isolated do i put the treatment in that water? i havent done a test in a while as have had the fish for over a year, started out as babies and have never had issues before. i should also mention i went away for 2-3 weeks and just got back about a week ago. i did 25% water change and cleaned filter before i left and same as when came back. nothing new added to tank in about 6 months. any help would be greatly appreciated. i'm going to do som water tsting now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasz74 Posted January 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 hi so i noticed yesterday morning that my largest shubunkin had a white filmy stuff all over his body and didnt rush up and push all the other fish out the way when fed them.so i took him out of the tank and put in shallow water in a bucket used only for the fish tank. he was swimming ok when i left went to pet store and got fungus and fin rot medication. the woman in the store said may as well treat them all so when i got home i did a 25% water change and put big daddy back in. did the treatment as per instructions on back which sent the tank a wonderful shade of emerald green kinda freaked me out and i dont think the fish liked it either!! they were all sitting on the bottom and hiding behind the plants when i went to bed but the other 2 did come up for dinner earlier. this morning he didnt have the white filmy stuff on him he just looked pale not bright orange and black like normally is. was just sitting on bottom of tank and same again didnt eat but the other 2 did. when i got home this arvo he was lying on his side at the bottom of his tank, seems ok breathing wise and can moved around the bottom. so i removed him and put him in the bucket again. should i put him back in the tank and do water change in 2 days like the instructions say to do or leave him isolated. if i leave him isolated do i put the treatment in that water? i havent done a test in a while as have had the fish for over a year, started out as babies and have never had issues before. i should also mention i went away for 2-3 weeks and just got back about a week ago. i did 25% water change and cleaned filter before i left and same as when came back. nothing new added to tank in about 6 months. any help would be greatly appreciated. i'm going to do som water tsting now ok so i tested both the tank water and the bucket water - not much difference so have put him back in and feed him by squishing the pellets between my fingers and dropping them infront of his mouth seemed to come alive with the smell of food!! i feed him in the bucket before feeding and i hadnt long also feed the other 2 in the tank so not sure if that buggered the ammonia / nitrate readings a s feed them as per usual when got home from work before doing the test. TANK WATER: =========== pH = 6.4 High Range pH = 7.4 Ammonia = 0.25 Nitrite = 0 Nitrate = 20 --------------------- BUCKET WATER ============ pH = 7.0 High Range pH = 7.4 Ammonia = 0.25 Nitrite = 0 Nitrate = 0 so i guess i will follow what the medication says and do another 25% water change tomorrow adding more of the medication and then it says on the third day to just do 25% water change then start all over again. if anyone has any other ideas on how to fix him or if its not fungal and something else please please let me know he's my favourite, he's friendly and nibbles my arms when i'm doing things around the tank!!! thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussie123 Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Bad water conditions will cause fish to produce excess lime coating causing that white filmy stuff that you mention. You have ammonia in your water and at a guess that is what is causing the problems. Bad water conditions can cause many problems with your fish including excess production of gill and/or skin mucus,flashing against tank objects,heavy breathing and lethargy. Keep up with small water changes daily and keep an eye on the ammonia levels and see how it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAR Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Ammonia should be 0. Any ammonia is not good. I would reduce the amount of food for them. Even not feed them for at least 24hrs. It wont hurt them. Ammonia could be caused by the person who was looking after them whist you where awayover feeding them. Now it is breaking down and creating high ammonia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy111 Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 For the mean time there is a product made by API called ammolock i think. that helps to neutralize the affects of ammonia poisoning in fish. Billy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frinkie Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 yeah, dont feed them for a day or two and prime it up, prime will detoxify nitrite, nitrate and ammonia. What size tank do you have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasz74 Posted January 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 yeah, dont feed them for a day or two and prime it up, prime will detoxify nitrite, nitrate and ammonia. What size tank do you have? its approx 195 litres. [92cm * 55 * 39] (thats just running tape measure along outside) thanks for all the help, he died over night unfortunately but at least i know what to do to help the other 2 and for future reference. do i do a complete water change now he's gone to remove the fungal / fin rot medication? or just do 25% changes daily til back to normal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
