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hey damo. some of the fronnies no would be 8cm i reckon. the larger ones anyway. pics look crappy cause the tank isnt too good, should be gettin a brand new on morrow though. calvus were nice hey, wish i still had em but didnt have my big tank when i had them and they were fightin somethin shockin. gave some away and sold the rest to a guy called tigger i think on the old forum. hows the leluipi goin ?? u still got the pair? any luck breedin em yet?

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