cripple04 Posted April 9, 2008 Report Share Posted April 9, 2008 ok so i brought in a fish from an unnamed lfs here and it had whitespot *i didnt quarantine as it was in a display and looked healthy in the shop. anyways nowe both my clown loaches have whitespot really bad, so i have already treated them with whitespot treatment *a formaldehyde/mal green mix* and its doing nothing for them would throwing a handful of salt in help out? also what kind of salt? i mean i have salt flaked that i use in cooking or are there certain types of sakt that can be used??? cheers peoples a quick response would really save my fish some unneccesary agony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
largeheaded1 Posted April 9, 2008 Report Share Posted April 9, 2008 Not with the loaches mate! Cant use salt.... try turning the tem up to about 32 or so, how long you been treating? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripple04 Posted April 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2008 third day today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HereFishieFishie Posted April 9, 2008 Report Share Posted April 9, 2008 You can treat at half dose with the white spot remedy. Make sure your tank is well aerated if you raise the tank temp. The disease can take a week or so to kill off. You can do partial water changes every other day with a gravel vac to remove cysts out of the gravel. I would do a treatment after you cant see any more white spots too. Frenchy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripple04 Posted April 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2008 thanks for the help have got an air pump going in tonight and powerhead that bubbles thru venturi will do a water change tonight too i really dont want to lose my nice loaches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japes Posted April 9, 2008 Report Share Posted April 9, 2008 Have you read up on Ich? It has three stages of it's life and 2 are vulnerable to medication, but not the visible white dot stage. Here's a very thorough guide that was given to me by Pete. http://cichlid-forum.com/articles/ich.php When I had Ich in my display I turned the temp up to 31-32 degrees, added 1gm/L of Aquarium Salt, and used Waterlife Protozin and within a few days the specs had dropped off and never came back, no deaths or abnormal behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripple04 Posted April 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2008 well theres no abnormal behaviour. just did a 30% waterchange and gravel vac, and a filter clean too, so will see how its going turned the temp up to 31 degrees and will retreat with whitespot treatment again in 3 days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japes Posted April 9, 2008 Report Share Posted April 9, 2008 Did you re-dose the medication after a water-change? You should be only doing them right before you need to redose otherwise you're losing some of your medication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkangel Posted April 9, 2008 Report Share Posted April 9, 2008 good luck with it all! i don't know what else you could do but all the above is all good advice you should take Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryanm62 Posted April 9, 2008 Report Share Posted April 9, 2008 make sure you don't have any activated carbon in your filter or it will remove the whitespot treatment. If you do just take it out for the duration of the treatment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr-x Posted April 9, 2008 Report Share Posted April 9, 2008 just do the temp thing it seems to work every time i didnt even use medication Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japes Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 just do the temp thing it seems to work every time i didnt even use medication There are two main strains of the Ich parasite, one is vulnerable to heat treatment, and the other is vulnerable to salt treatment. For all strands, the heat treatment will speed up the life cycle of the parasites but will only kill one type. Personally I treated with Salt, Medication & Heat because I didn't want to take the risk of any encysting and further infecting my fish, but I understand that a solid dose of salt (pending tank inhabitants) and increasing the temperature of the tank to 31-32 will kill off any type of Ich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripple04 Posted April 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 well im using the heat/medication treatment as most of the fish in the tank are scaless i.e bnose plecs and loaches therefore i cannot use salt im told? so yeah looks like the cycts are starting to fall off so heres hoping i get on top of this well one more thing what kind of disease is white spot??? is it parasitic/fungal/bacterial??? or viral Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
