Peter Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 http://www.petlink.com.au/Classifieds/sale/878396.html Just for those who are curious / interested. Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hareysfish Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 good luck if you can get a response from this person ,as ive tried to email him/her about other fish , on petlink and on the forums and have had no sucess at all . so mayby be buyer be aware. just my experience with this person anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japes Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 Seems a bit too cheap to me if they are true EBJD's. Probably a Texas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanwatts Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted May 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 We could ask him to post some photos I'm sure caution is the key when considering these fish. It would be great for the hobby though if they are indeed what they purport to be. Fingers crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanwatts Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 its the petshop where somebody got theres from i am not naming names though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoWeR Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 good luck if you can get a response from this person ,as ive tried to email him/her about other fish , on petlink and on the forums and have had no sucess at all . so mayby be buyer be aware. just my experience with this person anyway. Glad too see we aren't the only people to never get replies. We email them quite a few time about a year ago from about 4 different email addresses and never go 1 reply. I think they are just taking up space and aren't really selling anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raycam01_au Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 This is the same guy that goes under the name of KOI DRAGON of pleco fanatics He got blasted recently when he posted the same add on pleco fanatics, he goes under shiteloads of diff names Shanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronny Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 I can get in contact with him as i have his personal number. He actually called me the other day to see if i was interested in some of them. As far as i am aware he does have them but i will not say he DEFINATELY does until i seem them in person which will hopefully be soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronMonkey Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 I got a response from him via email... but has a tonne of excuses on why he cant send me pics of the actual fish.. told him would only be interested if i saw pics as I am an hour away from him.. go figure Would they happen to be associated with Exotic's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raycam01_au Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 iron you make me laugh have alook at the shite albino's on plecofanatics he sold, deformed pieces of crap, very interesting read. I think alittle buyer beware might be good on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronMonkey Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 yeah... saw the post on PF after i saw it on Petlink... hence why i emailed him.. but its great that your laughing.. all u seem to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanwatts Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 link to his crappy b-nose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbee Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 i thought that i'm the only guy he didn't want to sell his fish to but glad that i didn't now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 not this EBJD crap again....we got rid of that guy, now he's pulling the same tricks elsewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrism Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 hey guys, just thought I let you know if anyone is interested in these Demsey, Red Dragon Aquarium (used to be called Aquarium Beyond) in darra has some for sale, I think they are going for $150 each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japes Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 Down south there are also EBJD juvies for sale, legitimate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerbeer Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 Seriously - can someone explain how it is "good for the hobby" to continue to propogate a cross? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted May 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 Is it a cross? I admit I know very little on the topic but I'm keen to be enlightened about this beautiful looking fish. A natural occurring variant or evil, evil hybrid..........????? :wink: A very interesting discussion with extra links can be found here: http://www.cichlid-forum.com/phpBB/view ... p?t=158217 Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japes Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 It's a 'naturally' occuring colour morph that is line-bred to be sold, similar to Xanthic, Platinum, etc. I'm not really a fan of them at all personally. I'll stick to au naturale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerbeer Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 I am not convinced - too much work has to be done to keep the line going to be naturally occuring as some will have you believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japes Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 I am not convinced - too much work has to be done to keep the line going to be naturally occuring as some will have you believe It's not a hybrid or cross. From the thread that Peter posted. Jeff Rapps had some DNA work done which resulted in confirming they are not hybrids.Naturally this DNA work was challenged and believed by many to be inconclusive. Cole, a member here, has pushed to have further DNA research done. This has also come back to validate they are not hybrids. Naturally that has been challenged too... To do such thorough DNA research to prove 100% they are not hybrid is simply so extensive no one will donate the time or money to do it. So they've done valid, yet not 100% validating, DNA testing. Not one ounce of DNA testing has shown that they may be hybrids, it has all shown these fish are naturally occurring... Edit: While I'd trust Rapps judgement on CA/SA Cichlids, this thread raises good points for both sides. Even if it is just a colour morph, or hybrid, I'd never have one for myself anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerbeer Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 Read the whole post and the links to the EB sites - the conclusion is hazy at best. It seems that the consensus is that the EBJD may be a cross but hey that doesn't matter. And the fact you get some apparantly normal fish from the cross? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GS Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 Seriously - can someone explain how it is "good for the hobby" to continue to propogate a cross? Isn't the discus thing and all the strains based on hybrids and cross breeding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
