tmd77 Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 Hey guys, My mum is a kindy teacher and wants to put a fish tank in her room for the little kiddies. Her tank is about the same size as a 45cmx23cmx23cm tank. She wants "pretty" fish that will breed easily so that the kids can watch the babies grow. Immediately i thought of guppies, but seeing as though im more into africans i wasnt sure what else is out there that would suit this scenario? i suggested common bn and then i could keep all the fry but apparently they are boring and ugly lol. any help would be greatly appreciated. cheers, Trent P.S nick, no mouthbrooding convicts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathzone Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 I would Recommend some shell dwelers, some Neo. Multifasciatus, they bread very easy and you could put about 1m to 3 females in a tank that size.... And the parents look after the young also. They are interesting to watch but not the most colorful. Peter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 I'd suggest "endler" guppies Smaller than normal guppies with electric colours.....easily breed Pet city has real ones.....other are hybrids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathzone Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 I'd suggest "endler" guppiesSmaller than normal guppies with electric colours.....easily breed Pet city has real ones.....other are hybrids Yeah they are rather nice.... Might have a look up there on the weekend. Want something that will go with some Angelfish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reeco Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 umm mabye a nice pair of convicts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmd77 Posted July 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 I'd suggest "endler" guppiesSmaller than normal guppies with electric colours.....easily breed Pet city has real ones.....other are hybrids few questions: difference between males and females? how many could be kept in a tank this size? will the parents eat the fry? how much are they worth per fish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiley Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 how much proper pair from pet city is 25 the girls are impossible to find how many depends on tank size I live at waterford so if you want come have a looky im happy to give a scoop for a group of kids not suitalbe with angels basically only keep with bristlenoses or other harmless fish peter 0421331544 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 difference between males and females? same as guppies females bigger with no colour how many could be kept in a tank this size? Start with one pair and start harvesting after a couple of months will the parents eat the fry? if they are true endlers....no, but hybrid females will eat fry how much are they worth per fish?..... $12.50 from Pet City but cheaper if hybrids There are lots of hybrids about....male endler x female guppy. "real" endlers are smaller and much more colourful Most shops(and hobbyists) selling endlers are selling hybrids This may not be a big issue for a tank for kids.....like most....they wont know the difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoz Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 Convicts will breed easily in a tank that size, I think Matchu still has some pairs that have bred before... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alibi Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 Another vote for the endlers here. I had/have 6 in a 27litre tank, but have had continual problems and now only have two females left (unfortunatley due to the problems they have never bred). The males are really beautiful and interesting to watch and the colours are amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssdiscus Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 I'd recommend Endlers too, for that size tank - they're very hardy and the males very colourful. I sell my pure Endler pairs for $10 - these originally came from Petcity. I'm happy to donate a couple of pair for your kids at school. Cheers Shaun Ph 3892 2648 W or 3349 0611 H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alibi Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 Arrrhh i am so jelous of you guys that your endlers are breeding. I also bought mine from pet city but a mystery disease had wiped out a total of 7 out of 9 and left one female deformed (was normal when i got her, now has a really strange hump underneath her front). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 If anyone is looking for endlers.....I can say Shaun (ssdiscus) has lots of very healthy guppies Even his hybrids are very nice fish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerbeer Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 I don't claim to be an expert on endlers - but from what I have been told if you can see the black line going through they are probably not hybrids. Mine came from Pete (Smiley) and seem to be pure. He seems to have big nets too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 Just wish to clarify my previous post... I got some "endlers" from Shaun 6 or so months ago At the time he had 2 different strains. The Pet city strain and another....I got some of the other strain as I already had Pet City endlers At no time did Shaun claim that either strain were pure. I've concluded after breeding and observing both strains....that...in my opinion I believe the Pet City fish are a pure strain I believe the other strain Shaun had were hybrids....ie had some guppy blood(some males have very long dorsals and the females grow quite large) Mind you I have had comment when I posted the picture of my male Pet City "endler" on endlers R Us site that it was a hybrid!?! There is a world wide debate with regard what is a real endler and what is a hybrid....some hybrids look a lot like pure endlers...some look nothing like real endlers but are very attractive desirable fish. I'd take Shaun's very generous offer....all his fish (and plants)were very healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmd77 Posted July 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 Thanks to all who contributed to this thread, your information was so helpful! MASSIVE THANKYOU TO SHAUN (SSDISCUS) AND PETER (SMILEY) WHO KINDLY DONATED FISH TO THE KINDY!! it is these kind of people who make this hobby such an enjoyable one to be involved with! thanks again guys really appreciate it. Cheers, Trent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
