Mr Fresh Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 Evening ladies and gents, I have decided to build a new tank. our home is undergoing some new renovations and I have decided to put in a tank wall for a divider. current size planned (ok'd by the missus) is for an 8x3x2.5 however I an subtly suggesting a 10x3x3... will see how that goes. planning to stock it with a motoro ray, a couple of large plec's, ghost knife, and some clown loaches. firstly I'll be building the stand and sump, essentially tackling the project from the ground up. this will be the third tank I have built, and will be the largest until I build the monster tank in the backyard. will come with the pics once I fix my phone... and clean the house Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relle Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 yikes!~ big tank Goodluck <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick_s_h Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 Im setting up an 8x3x2.5 marine I definitely wouldnt go any higher for marine, but i say go for it in freshwater, 8x3x3 would be sweet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeg Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 Just a warning mate wouldnt put either a pleco or loaches in with a motoro...big problems just thought I would give you the heads up sounds like an awesome tank build though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frinkie Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 Hey mate, Good luck with the tank build, looking forward to pics! I do agree with deeg, I'd have either motoro ray/s and a few non-aggressive surface dwelling fish OR a couple of large plec's, ghost knife, clown loaches and some sort of surface dwelling fish. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dditt Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 Agree'd - as everyone else said, its a pretty big no no for rays and plecs sadly!... Also for the size - especially if its being incorporated into a wall, i'd definately go for as much height as you can so try for the 3foot height. Height is the one dimension that has the biggest effect on how big the tank looks, 1/2 a foot higher and the tank looks substantially bigger whereas a whole foot longer has little effect on overall appearance. Also, just keep in mind 3ft wide (although wider then most) might not be ideal for the full term of the fish your talking about keeping. a female ray can easily reach 100cm. And although she may live happily in a 3ft wide tank for the rest of her life, she's going to make the tank look tiny and you wont be able to keep anything else in with her except other large rays. But im being awful negative! lol just thought i'd point out a few things from my experience with tanks similar size, Good luck with it all im sure it'll be a great build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Fresh Posted May 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 thanks for the comments guys, whilst I agree that the plec and ray together may cause issues I'm intrigued as to why loaches would be a problem. one of my local shops has had a pair of clown loach happily sharing a tank with a motoro for some years now and there have been no problems as of yet. as for the motoro outgrowing the tank I have foreseen this and do plan on building a megatank/pond in the backyard within the next few years, it's going in next to my pool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayPee Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 I probably saw your pool from Castle Rock today. Take on board the advice given already. All i can say with a tank that big is get some monster going on in there. Would love to see some pics of construction when it happens. What local fish shop is that ?? I'm going to the aquarium in the morning but would love to hit that shop afterwards =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Fresh Posted May 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 a1 aquarium world. its a 3x3x3 cube tank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeg Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 The reasons loaches and rays are a no no is that if the motoro smothers the loach and eats the loach which can and will happen, the ray will choke on the loach because they have two sharp stiff pec fins. I did alot of research as I have 3 clown loaches around the 25cm mark and wanted to add them to my ray display. After reading many stories on Monster Fish Keepers of people losing there ray because they ate a clown loach I relaised it really wasnt worth the risk. They may not be eaten straight away, maybe not in the first year but be assured a ray will outgrow a loach and eventually it will become food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Fresh Posted May 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 great news everyone... I'm now officially unemployed... YAY!! this means that the in wall will have to be held off for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Fresh Posted June 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 haha, back to work tomorrow, gotta love the building trade, never out of work for long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
