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I can get both in from Germany - whether they are what they are when they come in little is a matter for a DNA test and a scapel.

I kid, I kid, but I see both on the list quite often and I have breeders who call me up with them. That said, the L-number system with double numbers, plus LDA's plus the same species with numbers only specific to how reticulated their forehead is - *sigh* can be quite hard to navigate!

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