blade87 Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 was just wondering on other peoples thorts in keeping heaters in the sump? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dexter Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 That is where mine is. It make the tank look more tidy and I figure the water passes it and heats it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blade87 Posted October 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 does you tank stay at a steady emp like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEA_V1S Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 i think depending on the volume of water your heating your heater willl probably be running 24h a day because the water might cool while its in the tank (in winter). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dexter Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 Pretty Much rock solid 25-26. (2xJager 300W Heaters. 1200L tank. Just to give you an idea) Set the tank up 2nd half winter, temp stayed 25-26. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blade87 Posted October 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 well my tank is bout 760 litres my sump runs at about 4000lph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pet_City Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 That's where mine are. Neater, tidier, fish can't hide behind them and burn, or bust up against them and break them. I would like to say something that I just learned last week about Jagers. I had dinner with the Australasian head of Eheim the other night (lol I am not name dropping!) we weren't really supposed to talk business but I was saying that I replaced the heater in my Juwel with a Jager and I really liked the efficiency. He told me they had been testing the efficiency of them for over the last year and have found that replacing your standard heater with a Jager will save you almost $130 to $150 AUD per YEAR over the life of the heater. Its because the internal thermostat regulates to a half degree either side. So if you have it set for 26C it shuts off at 26.5 but will kick back on at 25.5. This half degree fluctuation means that the water stays constant - and there is never a huge volume to heat. That's where the efficiency is at. The consistency is the key. Apparently they are going to publish this soon. Makes you think twice about saving that $30 over a cheaper heater doesn't it. /Eheim propaganda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blade87 Posted October 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 that is good to know as i have 2 300 watt jagers in there my mane thort was with it in the sump was coz the water is constatly passing by it wouldnt have a chance to get the water to temp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raycam01_au Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 thats wat sumps are best for, heats up a nice volume of water n transfers it to ya tank nice n easy good for large fish also that like to bust things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blade87 Posted October 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 thanks cam just wasnt sure and yeah my flowerhorns attack them all the time lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FIIK Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 (edited) Yes its a good idea..BUT A problem I commonly see is having a heater with the efficiency to keep up. Depending on your piping and location of the tank, you can lose a few degrees of temp quite easily and your lil 200w will be working over time. Then there is the issue of fitting them in your sump... 90% of sumps i see do not have the room for a 2ft jager. IMO jagers and other well know brands should be the only ones used....you will see only Jagers in my tanks. Edited October 16, 2011 by FIIK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blade87 Posted October 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 i have 2 x 300 watt jagers in there and temp hasent gone down so seems to be working Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuffy_rana Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 Yes its a good idea..BUT A problem I commonly see is having a heater with the efficiency to keep up. Depending on your piping and location of the tank, you can lose a few degrees of temp quite easily and your lil 200w will be working over time. Then there is the issue of fitting them in your sump... 90% of sumps i see do not have the room for a 2ft jager. IMO jagers and other well know brands should be the only ones used....you will see only Jagers in my tanks. hallelujah bruvva.......i'm hearin ya a lil off topic but some may suggest "inline" heaters. imho they are under powered (yes i know they come in 300w) and no good for tanks larger then a couple hundred litres. best options are jager 300w or stainless ones HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FIIK Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 i have 2 x 300 watt jagers in there and temp hasent gone down so seems to be working Im sure it would be mate .. Its was a general statement rather then directed at your particular case..sorry if any confusion. But what temp have got them set on ?? Generally when running dual heater set up I have one heater set 2C below the other, thus the lower heater only work when it really needs too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blade87 Posted October 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 all good yeh one on 31 and one on 29 so it generally keeps it at 30 c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FIIK Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 What are you keeping mate... 30C seems a lil high ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blade87 Posted October 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 flower horns they love the warmth and gives better kok growth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FIIK Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 ok cool... not a flower horn guy so i will take your word for it lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blade87 Posted October 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 lol but yeah they do and wen wantin to breed at 32 c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tech Den Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 Be interesting to see how the Jagers compare to the Titanium units. Personally I have the Jager but from what I read the Titanium ones have better conductivity... Just cause I read it doesn't mean it is true but would be interested in what someone that has one says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shon982 Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 Titanium would transfer heat better than glass due to conductivity... I run 3 300W jager heaters in my sump but I find one is constantly on, one is set at 24 degrees and the other two at 23 degrees would it be better to set all at the same temp? and this is the funniest thing I've ever heard about a fish flower horns they love the warmth and gives better kok growth sig worthy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David! Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 my mane thort ಠ_ಠ this is possibly the worst example of english I have ever seen. I'm not normally one to "spelling nazi" but seriously what is going on here!!!????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blade87 Posted October 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 ಠ_ಠ this is possibly the worst example of english I have ever seen. I'm not normally one to "spelling nazi" but seriously what is going on here!!!????? thats just me being lazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shon982 Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 (edited) lol it was only 2 letters difference in spelling it correctly though! the rest of the mistake was just pressing the wrong key should've spelt it right for good form Edited October 16, 2011 by shon982 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
