n6230806 Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 im planing to sell all my angel fry to a LFS, just want to know what is the average price they are willing to pay?? cheers manho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabmel Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 not much, and some times they offer only credit, mark up in shops is very high Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tutters187 Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 What size and what types Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadFishFloating Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 yep depends on quality and type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n6230806 Posted October 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 they are the fry of my Blue Blushing (M) and Golden Pearlscale (F), just around a 10cent coin (without fin)mark now, probs will sell them when they get to around a 20cent coin size cheers manho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pet_City Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 I've got to admit - it really depends. I usually get all my angels off of whoelsalers unless its something rare or stunning. Its not that we don't want to work with you guys, its just that retail relationships (retailer and supplier) is a two way street. For every slightly "overpriced" bristlenose that I order in from a wholesaler - it makes my account and my support of them bigger. This means that as a shop we can pull our weight a little and then we get first crack at new German imports, the best discus out of quarantine, or they will hunt down a special request from overseas. So what I mean is, its not that some shops don't want your fish - its just that as a bulk buyer we will want it for less than you may want to sell it, or if its common, some of us prefer the wholesalers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n6230806 Posted October 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 yea i can understand that, everyone wants to make profit. no matter what, i will still take them to the lfs, selling the whole lots to the lfs at once is just easier than sell a few each time on the forum, but i just wanna knw how much will they worth before i take them to the lfs, like 20c,50c,$1 each???? thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guest 11 Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 Ask the lfs would help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadFishFloating Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 Ask the lfs would help yep no matter what we guess unless we are the lfs owner we have no idea of the amount. Maybe take the lfs owner out for a night on the town. Feed them rums all night and then hit them up on buying angel fry in the cab on the way home. Personally thats how I think all fish deals should go down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogan8r Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 Odds are they will only want 10-15 anyway.. That's wat happened with me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabmel Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 I also suggest call first, I have a relationship with some LFS that is a direct trade, we both win, but a fish they sell for $18 to $20 I would not expect to get more than $1 - $2 each and a fish that is $5 I would say $0.50 c again call first, get a relationship going, they are morelikly to trade and buy if you inturn buy from them and have been there for a while Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dditt Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 agreed... the fishy industry is more about relationships then anything else... You need to build them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wetdreamsaquatics Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 We pay $2 for a 3.5 - 4cm angel from customers little more for store credit..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan013 Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 We pay $2 for a 3.5 - 4cm angel from customers little more for store credit..... And resale for how much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shon982 Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 thing is though, some fish will just become common... and prices will go down so you can't expect fish to be worth the same forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolverine Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 Guys, talking from the other point of view, most stores will do store credit, this is for various tax reasons, ie buy from a wholesaler it is all through the books, buy cash from a breeder then you are taxed on the whole amount, that is why you get less. Rule of thumb would be for good quality juveniles and fish that actually turnover, then you could get somewhere around 30-40% over the sale value of the item. at worst I would say around 20%, now that does not work with adults, as they take more space and are usually harder to sell. Form a good relationship with an LFS and they will or atleast should, look after you with your purchases, and that can then be a win win situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuffy_rana Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 And resale for how much? does it matter? i allways wonder why peeps are curoius to see how much better a salesman the buyer was then them. thats not to sound harsh but after the transaction you make with the store.....does it matter the mark up? i sell fry in 100's lots to stores and am either happy with the transaction.....or i dont make it. JMHO i guess....and thats all i got Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnexplainedWays Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 but a fish they sell for $18 to $20 I would not expect to get more than $1 - $2 eachand a fish that is $5 I would say $0.50 c At prices like that, how do people try to recover cost? I know it's hard to make a profit but at rates like that it seems like you'd spend way more than you make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 $1-$2 fish and re-sale for $20? Your dealing with a dodgy shop mate. Seph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pet_City Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 $1-$2 fish and re-sale for $20? Your dealing with a dodgy shop mate. Seph Not at all - we have what we would like to call "overheads". Put it in perspective - You have your fish room and your electricity and water cost x-amount that you have to recoup - now lets say that in your fish room, you have 8 employees that work 8 hour days lets say they are on the young side and only casuals - so thats 64 x $20 = 1280 + Super, what is that 9%? so thats 1395 x 6 = 8370 for Monday through Sat. Obviously Sunday is time and half = so 50 x 6 hours x 8... Well I'm too tired for maths its over $10000 a week in wages, not including rent, insurance, utilities and rates, thefts, deaths etc... So my friend, who are you calling dodgey for trying to recoup some profit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuffy_rana Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 400% mark up is much the norm and covers overheads i allways enjoy banter and innuendo. some of us are aware of the running costs of shops and "overheads". i am quite happy in the knowledge of what mark ups happen but we dont really need to make "excuses" for em. shops live and die by the custom and if the prices are too high no custom is given. obviously the prices are'nt too high yet but i do um and arh about making a purchase i deem to be "a lil rich" JMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnexplainedWays Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 Well I'm too tired for maths its over $10000 a week in wages, not including rent, insurance, utilities and rates, thefts, deaths etc... are you talking about instore products or do people actually reach in and take fish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuffy_rana Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 are you talking about instore products or do people actually reach in and take fish? yes they steal fish. a good one is using a mcdonalds cup to scoop fish out whilst they think no one is looking if i caught em i would make em "drink up please" and i would "insist" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnexplainedWays Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 yes they steal fish. a good one is using a mcdonalds cup to scoop fish out whilst they think no one is looking if i caught em i would make em "drink up please" and i would "insist" Wow. i'm always amazed at how low people will go sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuffy_rana Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 its human nature unfortunately and thats why i prefer the company....of fush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
