sarah1234 Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 Just wanted to share that my female b. macrostoma is finally responding to my males flirting efforts. While he is putting on a stunning display she is wagging her body and not chasing him away with her giant mouth of doom! Very happy with this progress so cross fingers it leads to some baby macs XD. Took out their divider yesterday after a huge waterchange, it was set up so the smaller male could get from side to side but not the large meanie of a female. Decided the tank was more than well planted enough. Lets see what happens from here . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raycam01_au Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 keep us informed of their antics ok, its due to you feeding them so well and the water etc, the tank setup is perfect mimics wat they would be in naturally, all signs are very positive!!!!!!!!! i think you will move from a hungry jacks gal to a MAC gal very soon, from our chat this morning and wat u described very promising!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! fingers crooooossssed keep us all in the loop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarah1234 Posted December 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 Spawning right in front of my eyes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raycam01_au Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 excellent news, will chat through the course of the day! talk soon, its all been leading up to this hasnt it, good regimes, good foods, constant care love it when a plan comes to fruition!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarah1234 Posted December 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 Man this is a very long spawning process! Not sure if eggs are going to result but they are sure having a damn good practise . It's true that spawning can last for several hrs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raycam01_au Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 EGGS u have eggs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hope he does his job now, gr8 job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! fingers crossed he is a little fella n she is a big fat old plumpy gal,,,,,,, as ACDC would sing she is a WHOLE LOTTA ROSIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sweet as Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarah1234 Posted December 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 OMG IT'S MY JOB TO TELL EVERYONE I HAVE EGGS!!! Lol but tis true. Huge mouthful just trasfered and they still at it. Tis like spawning splendens but the female does all the work in spawning and they are so much more chilled. So cute to see him with his bulging mouthful! Amazing watching the female pass the eggs into his mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raycam01_au Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 (edited) hey after they have finished spawning sarah, i would put the divider back in alittle later, once he has settled it will prolly give him that little security blanket and hopefully he has done his job n fert\the eggs awesome news, keep me posted talk soon!!!!!!!! Edited December 28, 2011 by raycam01_au casue i can, n ima happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarah1234 Posted December 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 Another huge mouthful transferred. My first mouthbrooders so I'm very exited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raycam01_au Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 sweeeeeeeeeeeet looks like its a nice start, and like i said, u have given them the best start, gr8 live foods, awesome tank conditions, fattened her up, really well done, another feather int he cap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadFishFloating Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 another feather in the cap Its a rather sought after feather too, that one. congrats! And yea, well played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raycam01_au Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 aint she juss the cutest little thang, u should have seent he excitement this morning was like OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG this is why fishkeeping pleases me, not the bickering or the shite just an honestl reaction to breeding another fish that has been a love and a want for her for ages!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! her first mouth brooder and wat a way to enter!!!! bravo!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raycam01_au Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 Its a rather sought after feather too, that one.congrats! And yea, well played. Donny The day we picked em up we had a plan to spawn them!!!! and Bham Sarah nailed it!!!!!!!!! beautfiul little fish to boot!!! not many around, top effort! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadFishFloating Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 The only ones I have heard of in oz are wildcaught imports. Be very nice to have aussie born fry! the Sultan of Brunei, approves of this spawning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guest 11 Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 theres some fry being sold atm on Aquariumlife - Home pretty sure there are $250 for an unsexed trio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadFishFloating Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 wow a quick google and............ lol do you remove the female? seems to be the million dollar question! First off: Remember that the parents DO NOT need to be separated (and this includes from the fry). This is the rule, not the exception. If you have a pair that is unusually aggressive, then you need to experiment with how to keep them. Out of all the pairs we have ever successfully bred, we have never had to separate the parents. But we do add PLENTY of hiding places for when someone is cranky! At this point (or even before spawning) make sure you have your aquarium completely covered. The male is very apt to swallow the eggs if he sees movement around the tank! If the spawning was successful he will carry the eggs/babies for about 20-22 days. Generally the male will eat the eggs around days 3-5 if something went wrong. We usually found this to be linked to PH (meaning it was too high at the time of spawning). After 20-22 days he will spit them into several "safe" places in the tank. Neither the male or the female should bother the babies. Keeping and breeding betta macrostoma. Post-spawning it is very important to give the male as much peace and quiet as possible. Males of this species are notorious for swallowing broods of eggs after a few days (especially young fish) and the chances of this happening increase if the male is unduly disturbed. For this reason most breeders leave the female in situ rather than risk unsettling the male by removing her. The male will tend to seek a hidden or shaded spot and will lose much of his colour during the incubation period. Even with these measures many keepers have reported that the male constantly eats the eggs after a few days, in some cases after 10 or more spawnings have occured! Patience would appear to be a virtue with this fish.The incubation period appears to be capable of varying tremendously with reports suggesting a range of 14 - 35 days. This would seem to be at least partly temperature-dependant but when ready the male will release fully-formed fry from his mouth. Once these are free swimming you may wish to remove the male as if the female attempts to spawn with him again too soon he may begin to starve. Giving the male a recovery period and plenty of good food post-brooding is highly recommended by some breeders while others simply keep the pair together constantly. Some keepers also leave both parents in with the fry and they are said not to harm them. Others remove the adults or fry and raise the young separately. Brunei Beauty (Betta macrostoma) - Seriously Fish It is not necessary to remove the female immediately after spawning, but she should be removed prior to the release of the fry in order to prevent him from mating again.For the next 3-4 weeks, don't be surprised if you never see the male. It can be quite freaky the first time round, constantly worrying that he might have died somewhere in the rocks or something. But if you have conditioned him correctly, and if he is healthy to begin with, then you shouldn't worry too much. In fact, if you see him after a week two, you can be sure that he has eaten the eggs and you have lost the clutch. So in fact, you actually want him to disappear for at least 3 weeks because he will only emerge if he has eaten the eggs or released the fry. www.ventralfins.com - Breeding Betta Macrostoma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raycam01_au Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 the female has not been removed, there is a divider if necessary which is currently not in, which will be placed back in to allow separation so far everything is working perfectly for the first timers such a good day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarah1234 Posted December 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 Donny that Sultan post is officially my favourite post OF ALL TIME!! Leaving the female in so far. Not wanting to disturb them as it would be a huge fuss to catch her. she seems mellow enough. Same with divider, leaving it out unless really necessary. A huge fuss to squeeze that back into the tank and he always freaks when I move it. He has gone into hide mode and is living between the 3 terracotta pot caves. Very concealed and very dark. Female is wandering around with nothing to do now lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarah1234 Posted December 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 Still holding thismorning. I had a sneak peak and almost flipped out when I thought he had swallowed! But on a second look definately still holding. Bloody mouthbrooders are nervewracking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarah1234 Posted December 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 Male has gone into hiding to the point where it seems he has dissapeared off the end of the earth. though in such a densely planted tank i'm sure he has found a little cave like area that I can't look into to hide in. hope all is going well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raycam01_au Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 this is wat they do fingers crossed now at least u have them spawning awesome job prior to the new year have a good one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electric yellow cichlids Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 lol what a hilirous thread !!! love it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
