tanah4128 Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 How many saratogas can you keep in a 10x2x2? Can you reduce territorial issues if you buy certain qty as juvies and grow them up together? Thank you in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan013 Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 IME; All fish are different. Youll get some that are fine like my barras together etc.. And then some that are complete *******s. I think because ive had all my fish since 4/5 cm-ish that helped them in the way they are together which is perfectly fine. Togas are pretty mellow so I would think growing from small they will be fine when bigger. And that size tank wouldnt house even 1 full grown toga. The lengths awesome but They need width as well. But I think you could have 4 safely at 40-50cm I would think. Maybe 6-8 til 30-40cm. Did you want a toga only tank? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanah4128 Posted January 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 Thanks keegan:) Yeah, few togas and a few bottom feeders:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syndicate Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 (edited) my 50cms + toga can turn around in the space of 4 inchs there like a snake, togas are very aggresive towards there own kind with leis being the less aggresive, and jars well they can kill everything overnight, id also recommend a school of dithers as togas are easy to spook my school of sd's really helped alot forgot to mention if it where me id go with 4/5 in a 10x2 to spread the agression and 10mm+ lids Edited January 18, 2012 by Syndicate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigo Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 Not a crash hot idea to begin I think bud... The only way we have kept a lot together was in a large tub/tank half full with toooooooooonnes of elodea & plants & still then its not crash hot. I have always found leis way more argo than jar's..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David! Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 Jardinii are pretty much the most agressive scleropages you can get. Never had a Lei but go check out a toga forum or MonsterFishKeepers. As they get older they get seriously territorial especially towards other fish in the upper water column. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sclero p Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 How many can you keep in a 8x2x2? simple answer is one. How many can you start with? as many as you like/can afford/have the time to rescue them one by one before they get killed by their tank mates. How long can you keep them together ? this is variable, siblings will last the longest maybe 4 years with Leis maybe 2 with Jars. Though even with sibs they may start the sizing each other up ritual at 100mm. I know you had 3 sibs Syn now there is one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syndicate Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 (edited) ............ Edited January 19, 2012 by Syndicate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syndicate Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Not from fighting but one cut his head on the top and the other well that's still a mystery found him on top off closed lids :/ they Had there hierarchy worked out and had little blues here and there never anything serious maybe a torn fin or a missing scale here or there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sclero p Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Thats right remember now, probably did not break it on the way through. How long were all 3 together? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanah4128 Posted January 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 So, I guess 1 saratoga to be safe? Having said that, what are ideal tank mates for an adult Jar or Lei? Thank you:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FIIK Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Mono's and/or scats ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sclero p Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Tank mates are trial and error and dependent on individual fish. Inoffensive and inedible bottom dwellers a good start , like schools of cheap small fish myself, anything that nips and annoys may not last long lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanoz Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 My mono's killed my Toga! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David! Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 I have a nice eel you can have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
africanman79 Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Have had both, I'd go a jar over lei, try tandanus & plecos for cleanup & try bass/grunters/archers for extra looks target fish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FIIK Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 My mono's killed my Toga! Say whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syndicate Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 about 3 years they where 46 and 54 cms, two where siblings the other my first i got when he was tiny, introduced them at about 25/30cms with the 2 new ones at about 20. they where always scared of the barra and use to school together for comfort which i think helped them bond together a bit, also none off the 3 would eat / attack small fish very peaceful towards tank mate's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan013 Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 If you were chasing cleanup cattys then tandanus are great. I have 3 and they get along great together, And with the barra archers and ray as well.. If I had the tank personally It would be a MASSIVE archer tank. Imagine all the banks you can buildup each end with a semi circle island towards the middle with plants and everything through it. Branches throughout with hanging air plants etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
003chris Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 my 60cm Jardini & 30 cm tandanus & 2 30cm plecos live happily in my 6x3x2 with half dozen bristlenose & dont seem to get in each others way, the tandanus is like the togas pet dog swims around with him sometimes, looks hilarious... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
