Pet_City Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pet_City Posted January 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 SHall we play Spot the Thai and Spot the Chinese bred ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
__CAV__ Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 i think that lil orange fella in the 3rd pic of the 1st post looks cool with his lil moustache hes got running Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenswimmers Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 ha ha...very nice...I was in your store looking at these guys....you might be able to spot me sometime...Im probably the only guy that watches goldfish for a good 15 minutes(at least!) watching from different angles to check finnage etc....that calico ranchu guy had me intrigued..I couldnt pick him(breeding wise)..size wise....china always prodice big..thai guys do produce them but not on the scale of the chinese...but his body shape was good for something so big espeacially the back curve going into the tail(but wasnt so keen on the little dent in his back just from a breeding point of view but you cant hate at that size).....little black guy..thai to the bank..I grabbed two of these guys and 5 of your little fantails(alot of good quality little guys)...potential ryukins and some nice calicos...had my eye on a nice calico oranda and nice orange and black oranda too..with the balck lipstick think its that one in your pic there...the blue was nice too but Im way too critical when it comes to goldfish selection so will shut up...but if i was a betting man...i'd say the calico ranchu is chinese based on tail size and overall body size...and the orange and white ranchu was thai based on smaller tail fin....but could be wrong....or are you bluffing!..ha ha..are they both chinese Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenswimmers Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 i think that lil orange fella in the 3rd pic of the 1st post looks cool with his lil moustache hes got running yeah hes a good fish too...overall body and finnage wise..a winner..prices are great too Kai have to say..nice work....might be back to grab a few of those orandas too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
__CAV__ Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 yeah hes a good fish too...overall body and finnage wise..a winner..prices are great too Kai have to say..nice work....might be back to grab a few of those orandas too tru tru... what type of goldie is he? (please forgive me i'm a noob when it comes to goldies, comets are about the only ones i really know lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenswimmers Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 that fellas an oranda....similar to a fantail goldy but he has the headgrowth(wen as they call it in chinese..yumcha!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenswimmers Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 super goby you need some pics up of that white headed oranda...hes an awesome fish...but I guess then you might sell him..ha ha Im a little curious about the age of these guys...its the only problem breeding wise when they are supersized....goldies are at the top of their game for about 3-4 yrs breeding wise...and with the potential to live over 20 years...as a breeder you want to take full advantage of the bang bang boogey years.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerbeer Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 (edited) Are butterfly tails often available? Edited January 19, 2012 by gingerbeer cause I can't spell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadFishFloating Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 yep we usually have butterfly tails in store. Most the panda are usually butterflys for example little fantails lol I love nothing more than looking thru a whole batch of fantails for one perfect one. Spotted a suave jinkin looking one totally white, but full red fins and red lipstick but it SOLD before I got a chance to pick it out. devo'd! ah well thats the way the cookie crumbles we cant be cherry picking out our faves before the customers even get a look at them! Its also good to know that someone else shares my taste in goldys I may not be a 14th generation goldfish grader...... but I can pick a good looking goldy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenswimmers Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 they are a real nice batch you got in at the moment Donny...as you'd know even a common little fantail with nice finnage/good shape will grow into a beautiful fish...cheap price doesnt mean cheap fish...its just because they are young and people have to do the hard work(not really if you know how to do basic fish care)....I regularly spot little ryukins in the mix:)...and less often the odd little oranda too:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relle Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 He looks so sad That guy on the right looks shocked....bad hair day for the photographer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadFishFloating Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 I regularly spot little ryukins in the mix...and less often the odd little oranda too yep, its like spotting a longfin bristlenose in amongst a heap of commons! love those little bonuses. bit scared of the ryukins as I had one of those "1 in a ten thousand" psychos in the form of a ryukin a while back. I mean the random "1 in ten thousand" can be any type of fish but wow he was just such a jerk even to comets 3 times his size I found him a good home by himself in an old ladies living room. never seen anything like it hey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenswimmers Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 yep, its like spotting a longfin bristlenose in amongst a heap of commons!love those little bonuses. bit scared of the ryukins as I had one of those "1 in a ten thousand" psychos in the form of a ryukin a while back. I mean the random "1 in ten thousand" can be any type of fish but wow he was just such a jerk even to comets 3 times his size I found him a good home by himself in an old ladies living room. never seen anything like it hey. funny hey...must be a personality trait...for such a quiet fish Ive noticed you get the odd full on bully...Ive mainly noticed it with ryukins...they seem to get a domination thing going on...I've got one that tries to run the other fish away from the food...thought he was trying to get some love til I saw him chasing a male...and only at feed time.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supercobwe Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Beautifully fish there, love it although I'm not a big fan of gold fish but that's awesome gold fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenswimmers Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 and the calico ranchu and the white headed Oranda are BIG....really recommend anyone go see these guys if you havent seen BIG quality goldfish...free promo PC ! high 5 sexy time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadFishFloating Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Gotta say that oranda are my homeboys. never felt the same way about ranchus. but ya me and oranda we got history. It is educational to see how big a mature goldfish actually is. Most people have no idea just how big a fancy can get. Hence why we reccomend larger tanks than most people expect us too. means ya dont have to work as hard to waterchange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenswimmers Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 ha ha...Ive always been rollin with the ranchu...so much work to get really decent ones and its never mastered(I guess which fancy strain is??)... any decent fancy goldy are a pain breeding wise and awesome to see full grown...but yeah if you like having to inspect EVERY individual fry up close and as soon as its possible(sucker for punishment in other words)...then breed fancy goldies....workin on some super Oranda you might dig too Donny so I'll show some pics when ready Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadFishFloating Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 sucker for punishment = me trying to produce A grade panda oranda. Had the best male but even with such a good start its actually really hard you think you nailed it tons of black and white fry and then outta no where SUDDENLY ALL TRICOLOURs!! dammit orange why you not play nice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenswimmers Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 Just curious Donny..what was the female?...personally i would try to breed a great panda male with an all black female or all white female...recessive colours...and yep you would probably still get some tri colours which could also eventually end up all orange...ha ha...I love working with the calicos...as they produce a mixed bag of lollies everytime...calico with a panda could produce some magic...good thing about calico..is you already have some recessive colour genes in place but they are stable...I personally have never seen a calico(full calico not a tri colour or 2 colour) turn full orange..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inkozana Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 I went in there today to have a look at the fish, they were all so impressive. I wanted to get one but the shop was so busy I left after half an hour. My boyfriend loved the ray, he asked if we could get one (LOL). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadFishFloating Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 Just curious Donny..what was the female?...personally i would try to breed a great panda male with an all black female or all white female...recessive colours...and yep you would probably still get some tri colours which could also eventually end up all orange...ha ha...I love working with the calicos...as they produce a mixed bag of lollies everytime...calico with a panda could produce some magic...good thing about calico..is you already have some recessive colour genes in place but they are stable...I personally have never seen a calico(full calico not a tri colour or 2 colour) turn full orange..... I tried with many different females but my main was a white oranda girl. Not sure what it was about her but her eggs had an excellent hatch rate. I get a bit emotional about black goldfish, as I have had so many turn gold even after 4 YEARS OF BEING BLACK!!!!! The most reliable way I have found is looking at the belly scales for any sign of bronze but even this lets me down the yellow/gold gene is a formidable foe to try conquer in a line breeding operation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadFishFloating Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 I went in there today to have a look at the fish, they were all so impressive. I wanted to get one but the shop was so busy I left after half an hour.My boyfriend loved the ray, he asked if we could get one (LOL). awwwwwwwww........... we had a busy rush there but then it was pretty cruisy. Next time say g'day!!!!!!!!!!!! always good to meet forum people especially goldy fans we are an elite crew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pet_City Posted January 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 the yellow/gold gene is a formidable foe to try conquer in a line breeding operation Unless its cherry shrimp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadFishFloating Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 lol true but its the bane of my current peacock line every time I think I have crushed it it creeps back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...