goldenswimmers Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 These guys are from the 1st batch of Ranchu babies(mother died during spawning) and now they are turning into strong little guys...some of these guys have great back curvature and some are lesser grade(this why they grade goldfish and adjust the prices accordingly!)but I have kept them all going(some I might have culled normally)as there were only about 30 fry that I was able to keep and I want to work off the genes and continue the mums bloodline... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaiga Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 they are growing so fast! cant wait for them to colour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenswimmers Posted January 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Shouldnt be too much longer...some of them are starting to darken up along the back...a sign they will be going through a colour change pretty soon..they darken up all over then change again towards there final colour(maybe..ha ha they can even change again as adults...If they stayed dark as youngstas) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarah1234 Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 I'd love to see a post on breeding goldfish. Truly I would have no idea how to do it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matmatmat Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 I'd love to see a post on breeding goldfish. Truly I would have no idea how to do it! I asked the same question in another thread! http://www.qldaf.com/forums/goldfish-koi-46/3-5-batches-baby-ranchu-batch-0-5-a-58731/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenswimmers Posted January 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 reckon i'll have some new pics here very soon...they are getting very dark so colours will be coming out very soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasman Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 man, theres actually quite a few in there with flattish backs. Knowing nothing about ranchu genetics and breeding, I really would have thought most would have that trait?? or is it a trait only a few pass on?? What kind of percentage do you think will make the grade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenswimmers Posted January 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 (edited) ha ha...the pains of breeding ranchu!!(I think its what attracts me to them)....there is definitely quite a few in there that I normally wouldnt keep..but the mum passed away during the spawn and I only got about 50 or so eggs(I wanted to keep as many as possible and decide at the end)...I ended up with about 20 making this stage(after earlier culls)...yep the perfect curved back is almost recessive...I say almost as it really depends on the parents..you can increase the numbers of good fry if you have good bloodlines..ranchu bloodlines are pretty much non existant here in Australia...I would say out of this 20 I'll probably get 5(fingers crossed!) really good guys...and those are the ones I'll work with in the future to try and create a more reliable line...some batches you almost get rid of all the fry..they can be that bad...thats why Its so hard to work with these guys...the stock here is totally unreliable...I also find if you cross fish from china with fish from thailand(where most imports are coming from) you also can get alot of duds...I try to aim at all chinese or all thai for breeding....but also in general ...keeping 10 out of 100 in ranchu breeding is pretty standard...with a really strong bloodline you might get 20-25 %....the dorsal fin in these bloodlines has pretty much been eliminated(in lower breeders you regularly get "spikes" or partial dorsal fins) but the nice back curve is still the issue...its one of those "aim for perfection but its never perfected" type things...not only the back..but also with the tail etc and then you also have to make sure the headgrowth comes on as they are aging....its why the really top grade guys are actually pretty uncommon... Edited January 27, 2012 by goldenswimmers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasman Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 (edited) wow ok, theres a little more to this then. haha. That sounds challenging! But when you get a beauty well then you can pop the champagne I suppose. Makes me think my little guy I got from a local pet shop isnt too bad then for the $9 he cost me lol. Mind you, I know in the future I'll be dedicating one of my 6fters to just goldies. Theres some nice oranda and ranchu at Fishchicks atm for around the $100 mark. They can be one of the most stunning fish around imo. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRcfRW2441k&feature=plcp&context=C32f4f13UDOEgsToPDskKOGSHwl0I0SQug-JX8tL1o Q. Your ponds?? are they inground, or "containers" above the ground? I would really like to move my shubunkin outdoors, but just need to find a low cost alternative to digging a pond. Edited January 27, 2012 by kasman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenswimmers Posted January 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 Hey Kasman...had to do a bit of check and see how many "nice" ranchu I would have to work off...and to show some pics of some guys that have the potential to become very nice ranchu...there is also a couple more than seem "interesting" but these are the pick body shape wise... And about my ponds..they are all above ground to avoid cane toads etc and also because its not my land...you can get some nice round above ground ponds for pretty cheap...also go for round ones if you want to put "swimmers" like shubunkins in there..the round sides mean they feel like there is more room with no real corners(dead ends) and they swim alot more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
