bigeronuc Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 Hi All, Recently I've seen Tropheus duboisi Golden Firefox in a few LFS's and a number of mates have added them to their aquariums. They are a stunning variant but I can not find any info on their collection point etc. Are they a wild variant or captive bred? Any info would be appreciated as the info I and my mates have been given has varied from shop to shop. Regards, Jade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerbeer Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 I do not beleive they are a wild variation. Certainly tank made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barefootexplorer Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 (edited) Hybrids, Kill em! Also referred to as "Red Phoenix" or "Red Herring" by others! Don't waste your money! Their "collection Point" is Asia!!! Edited January 28, 2012 by Barefootexplorer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeronuc Posted January 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 Thanks guy's. I had my suspicion they were hybrids or a captive bred item. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubster Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 very said to see these *******s are destroying Tropheus wats next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfry40 Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 Hi guys my dad has 30 off these that he purchased from the lfs ,yes they are hybrids and from asia. But does it matter!!! these fish have an awesome personality and all swarm to the top of the tank all the time. Colours range from bright orange through to dark orange and white. I must say when i go there i love to look at them,more than he's other tropheus . It doesn't matter where they come from as long as you like them.They are still tropheus! Unless youvé seen my dads coloney 10-14cmx 35adults.I wouldn't say never. jas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supercobwe Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 Hi guys my dad has 30 off these that he purchased from the lfs ,yes they are hybridsand from asia. But does it matter!!! these fish have an awesome personality and all swarm to the top of the tank all the time. Colours range from bright orange through to dark orange and white. I must say when i go there i love to look at them,more than he's other tropheus . It doesn't matter where they come from as long as you like them.They are still tropheus! Unless youvé seen my dads coloney 10-14cmx 35adults.I wouldn't say never. jas They only good for display but in term of breeding!!! is a no no no............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanoz Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 I know of an LFS who has some of these, PM me if you would like to know more. I personally don't agree with it but you know as a display cool but for breeding BIG NO NO!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odins fish Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 would have to say buy em if u like em i wouldnt how ever call them a tropheus !! do u call flower horns midas or trimac ?? NO they are a flowerhorn (hybred) ! and as far as breeding goes well u never get the same fish twice if its been hybred my advise is buy some real tropheus if u want T,s as hybreds usually have **** gene pool and will experience more problems ps . Kasanga are B.E.A utifull <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfry40 Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 (edited) He likes them,i'm happy for him. And i wonder what 2 they bred to get red phoenix. Edited January 30, 2012 by mcfry40 just wonder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a-f-a Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 think this tread should be moved to the hybrid section ???? no hybrid is a good hybrid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grigby Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 Jade They are also known as Red Phoenix aka Caramba Bishop. An inline bred of a Tropheus Caramba morph by Mireille Schreyen's Fishes of Burundi. I have 28 sub adults in an 8ft tank and love them. They are line bred, not hybrid! A hell of a lot of fish in the industry are line bred: should all these go as well. Caramba Bishop breed true to colour. A fish shop in Melbourne is selling imports, as Caramba Bishops, for over $120 each. I would have Yellow Kiriza trophs as well if I could afford them, however I think Tropheus brichardi Kipili (albino) looks very plain. Look forward to other responses regarding the breeding of albino fish, or any line bred fish for that matter. A great number of people are breeding NO NO's!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supercobwe Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 think this tread should be moved to the hybrid section ???? no hybrid is a good hybrid I agree.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PETFISH Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 as fishhead says these are NOT a hybrid, they are line bred to produce the colour and make a stunning DISPLAY fish and if you do like them, contact me and i will sell you some @4cm for $13 each, EG:DDISCUS are line bred for thier colours ,should we kill all them too????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
