BristlenoseGirl Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 Hey, I havnt been on here for while, so im sorry if i do something wrong.. My dad has discus and he has breed them and looked after them for years. His current tank full of Discus, have been for a bout 4 months now.. Not eating, sunken bellys, breathing heavily, 2 of them are facing downwards, breathing in sand.. one Blue Turq full size.. the other not sure of type.. its orange. Anyways. He now has a baby leopard thats copying but its facing upwards, sucking air from time to time, its belly is fully sunken, and below its eyes is now sunken. Im afraid they are going to die. He treated them all with everything avaliable, he got to the stage, of poking a needle into them to release the 'air' which they had apparently swallowed through his air stone.. He has atached a sinker to one of them to get it swimming upright (this was when there was only one that was doing this).. and it helped it ate food, started pooing, swiming normally.. then the sinker fell out and my dad couldnt be bothered to put it back in.. Its now come to.. fish are being fed and thats it. No medication..No weekly water change. What should I do? The fish are in the loungeroom right beside his chair.. and he is doing nothing! I cant bare to be in the loungeroom anymore, because all you see is a load of sick fish.. Has anyone else had discus that just all of a sudden turn downwards or upwards.. they are still straight.. but they re facing either upwards or downwards.. Any tips would be kindy appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISSY Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 (edited) water parametres? food? tank size? filtration? And also when was the last water change? Discus like them at least twice a week... Hard to know what to do with out this info. Edited July 25, 2012 by BRISSY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panbee Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 Swimming facing up or down could indicate swim bladder problem and if so I don't believe there is a cure. I have lost a couple with this problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BristlenoseGirl Posted July 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 Okay, sorry guys.. i read up on some reading.. Ill post up all the info i have now gained.. Dads slighly being more leanient.. ( i did the tests whilst he was in the shower.. Plus pic's).. Ill post soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BristlenoseGirl Posted July 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 Pictures by BristlenoseGirl - Photobucket Heres a link to the photos. The first 12 photos are of the problem fish NOW. Problem Fish (Yellow) Blue one isnt doing it as much, just every now and then.. Yellow Fish, SUnken belly, usually sucking air.. Okay so here the results: Ph: (In the photo.. i couldnt find the result sheetie thingy) Ammonia: 2.00 Nirtate: 10- 20 (I would say 15.. but its not on the chart) Nitrite: 0ppm Size of tank: 4x2x2 Temperture: 27.6C Been Running for 4-5yrs Filtration: 2 external canister filters (1 with UV light which is on) 1 Air Stone Curtain. Fish in Tank: 8 Discus, 4-5 BN peppermint Catfish Plants in Tank: sword plants, and Thin Vale. Feeding: Discus Granuals + frozen blood worms. Last water change: 2 days ago. 50% water change He started talking to me again... He said he thinks its a bacterial because its affecting the rest of the fish. Thats.. probably all the information I can give Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BristlenoseGirl Posted July 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 what they used to look like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daharkazangel Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 Oh wow..... Someone please help her :"( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaniBrooke Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 Is that a bit high ammonia wise?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BristlenoseGirl Posted July 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 to reduce Ammonia.. your suppose to do water changes regularly.. We have been Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big brock Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 pm sent........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISSY Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 I would say bump temp to 31C over 1-2 days. This would get there metabolism going so hopfully they will feed, and if you can make some beef heart frozen food with metronide in it that would help alot if they have worms. And pm sent also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaniBrooke Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 have you tried using something like Prime to help? I used that when my tank had a spike...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BristlenoseGirl Posted July 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 Yep primed with every water change.. we use a rainwater tank for our tanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BristlenoseGirl Posted July 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 What is the dose rate for Metro? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BristlenoseGirl Posted July 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 1 tablet 80L ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BristlenoseGirl Posted July 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 Dads on the phone with Big Brock Hopefully he will be the answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daharkazangel Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 Naw..well done guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISSY Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 I suggest putting metro in food instead of water, has better resaults as far as I've seen, and pm replyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big brock Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 Discus Fish Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big brock Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 metro dose 25mg/L so 90L = 2.25g Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BristlenoseGirl Posted July 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 Okay Update on the Fishies... Dad took them to a Vet Thanks to Big Brock You were sooo good at perswading him/giving him the info he needed. Anways Results are in. They have. - Gill Fluke - Costia - White Spot. And there are still remaining tests to be done.. so we are getting another call tommorow... WE recon its from the bird poop on the shed which we get our rainwater from.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickadee Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 Gees hope all goes well and you save them,hate seeing sick fish photos ,good luck..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISSY Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 How are they going? Any improvment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daharkazangel Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 Yeah, dont leave us hanging! Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BristlenoseGirl Posted July 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 Okay. Yellow one (Used to be orange) Died.. We did a condies Crystals bath (of the whole tank) They were meant to be dipped but dad did whole tank. 10mg/L. Fish are looking alot better now. But the Little Yellow ones, body just gave up. The Condies crystals are meant to be dosed once a week for 3 weeks. (To get rid of Body flukes, and gill flukes). After the 3 weeks are up dads going to then go on with the Big L wormer.. To get rid of the worms.. We froze the yellow (Orange) one, and sent it to the vets for an autopsy.. the results were roundworms - ALOT in the gut of the fish. So thats the update.. so far. Still a long way to go.. they still are not upright. but they are looking ALOT better. and ALL are eating! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
