The Tech Den Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 Today I thought I would empty a few fry out of caves and to my surprise I found about 5 Albino L333's. Now I am a bit freaked out and want to make sure they live... Pretty impressed - would like to say it was all me but obviously mother nature did all the work... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yodapwnsasmurf Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 Jesus that's cool! Grow em out for sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dexter Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 (edited) Would be intersting to see how they look when they grow up...I am off to Google it right now Sorry to Hi-jack but here is what I found by googling Google Translate Edited August 3, 2012 by Dexter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tech Den Posted August 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 These are definitely white too but they might go yellow. There was a couple in Sydney earlier in the year but they are as rare as hens teeth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goneself Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 Good work mate, what's the plan with them now? Cotton wool, or business as usual? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tubbi Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 Congrats john! Very rare indeed and yes there were 2 albino 333 fry for sale in Sydney, from memory they were 3-4cm and the seller was asking a fair few dollars for them. You should grow them up into adults :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tech Den Posted August 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 They will be wrapped in cotton wool and that is the part that freaks me out, just need to get them to adults - only found out this afternoon and at this stage it will be grow them out and see if I can get them to breed and get more Albino L333's out there and hopefully let them keep doing what they are doing and see if more come along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clipper Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 Do an exact count on the fry and post the ratio. I'm studying fish genetics at uni so i'd be very interested to know what sort of dominance gene you have. Also from the ratio if you are accurate I'll be able to say if its the male or female with the gene and narrow down the breeding for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tech Den Posted August 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 That is a bit hard to do as I had 4 logs with males on eggs in one fry saver so it is a bit of a mix and can not do the ratio. So I do not know which male - but have a bit of an idea and there is a heap of girls in the colony... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clipper Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 Here's some of the ratios for directly breeding fish, so you can get a better idea. Kind regards, Graham P.S. Keep some of your L333's for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamski84 Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 congratulations mate its always good to get a surprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clipper Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 Are fair enough John. Congrats on the babies though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve6610 Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 That is a bit hard to do as I had 4 logs with males on eggs in one fry saver so it is a bit of a mix and can not do the ratio. So I do not know which male - but have a bit of an idea and there is a heap of girls in the colony... very cool find techy, its a shame the siblings were mixed with others, i'm not 100% sure with fish, but both parents could be split albino and 66% of the clutch mates can be split albino, if it was me i'd be growing up the whole clutch and test mating them, but thats a bit hard when you have a 4 logs mixed in, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tech Den Posted August 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 I just hope this is just one of a few to come and hope that I will be able to narrow it down to the parents. Have an idea of the male so it will be trial and error and he will have about 8 females to play with before I eliminate him from the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISSY Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 Very very nice mate, good to see what it will grow into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joddy92 Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 Hope i get to see them on tomor stop in. So keen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daharkazangel Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 Now thats cool. Pleeeease post pics as they grow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brengun Posted August 4, 2012 Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 They look to be of reasonable size and healthy enough so they should do well for you. Just keep an eye on them with the other normal fry though and make sure there is no infighting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tech Den Posted August 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 For those that would like to see them swimming around I have popped a Vid on my website where you can view it. Albino L333 Catfish l-number Pleco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayray2281 Posted August 4, 2012 Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 Hi, good work tech den, if anyone could do it, it is you, but it would be interesting if it was from stock you had before or if it was from stock you just bought, but nun the less, you have bred them and who cares how has sold them, they did not bred them, I know that, you know that, it would be so cool if you can breed them true, Keep up the good work, and keep true to your self, not to anyone else, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tech Den Posted August 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 (edited) They are a bit of a mix in that colony, I have the ones that I got off you in one tank and a pair in another tank and then the colony and there is more than what I had originally bought as I have kept the odd one or two from spawns that I liked or just missed and left in the tank and have a feeling it is one of the newer ones just starting so hoping there will be a few more to come. From what I have found out is that they will breed true from what I am told as I have a feeling that out there some one has a Albino pair - well that is what I am reading into it anyway. Tossing up weather to pair the ones up I have or to get a hold of other Albino's. Saw some yellowy ones and these seem pretty white but time will tell. I am hoping that it will not be where I have to pop a male in separate tanks and then rotate each female till I find which ones it is - hopefully it will be just a matter of trap separate and check the fry till I find the missing link. Would like to take the credit for it but it is just mother nature and genes and just being lucky really but thanks for the kind words. Edited August 4, 2012 by The Tech Den Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brengun Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 Ha imagine a whole tank full of albino L333 as a breeding colony. That'd be pretty special and world class. I am sure there would be other pleco keepers interested in their genetics, not just the bn ones which everyones got. Hypans are cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocky1988 Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 thats sick as john, looking forward to getting some off you in the future when you start breeding them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjamin Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 wow really impressed congratz john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tech Den Posted August 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 I am pretty impressed too. Not that I did anything - just surprising what can happen out of the blue and when you least expect it. It is days like that, that make up for the bad ones. Can't wait till they grow and no doubt will keep everyone updated on the progress. Be great having a tank of them but do not want to look to far into the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
