camman Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 I just got some freshwater pipefish this morning - I never realised how much I was missing out by not having any sooner. By far my new favorite now I need to breed cherry shrimp to keep the food up to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tex Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 Thats awesome.Didn't know there was a freshwater pipefish. Is it a native? pics please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadFishFloating Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 How long did it take to have the proper paperwork approved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karen Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 Awesome, I would love some, could you let me know where they are available if there are anymore. As for feeding - ghost shrimp are a cheaper option then cherrys till you get them onto regular food. I believe they will take packaged food, though from memory raising the fry is the hard bit. Good luck with these guys, a challenge is what its about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sclero p Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 Natives DFF, 3 or 4 species of freshwater Syngnathid found in NQ. Though you would have to collect them yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camman Posted December 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 Apparently there is up to nine different freshwater pipefish several are in debate as to whether they are different or not the ones I got are the biggest and they are the only ones to have an external pouch I was told he will be mailing me some literature on them , the bloke I got them from said they live in a river north of cooktown somewhere he is expecting to get some more over the holidays I'm hoping I can get mine to breed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Saffa Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 wow these look awesome didnt realise there was freshwater ones .... they look similar to "sea dragons" what I caught in salt water Im gunna do some research now ..... lol this forum is Ever inspiring thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquaholic99 Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 They will probably take baby guppies as food. I used to keep mollies in with seahorses just for their babies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tex Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 I want some.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camman Posted December 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 I caught one of the little fellas eating was pretty cool he hovered about an inch and a half from a little shrimp and literally sucked it in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadFishFloating Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 Natives DFF, 3 or 4 species of freshwater Syngnathid found in NQ.Though you would have to collect them yourself. Yea, I asked several years ago and DPI told me they were only legally able to be kept with a permit. Being caught with them in your possesion was a serious offence with fines of tens of thousands of dollars the norm. but hey, that was NSW so in QLD its likely just a few thousand per specimen. Merry christmas! As of July 2004 all species of the families 'Syngnathidae', 'Solenostomidae' and 'Pegasidae' were listed as "protected" under the NSW Fisheries Management Act 1994. It is now an offence to have in your possession, collect or harvest any species of seahorse, seadragon, pipefish, pipehorse, ghostpipefish or seamoths in NSW without a permit. The Environmental Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act 1999 protects all syngnathids found in Commonwealth waters, making it is an offence to kill, injure, take, trade, move or export any members of the family without a Commonwealth approval permit. In May 2004 the Parties to the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species of Wild Fauna and Flora (CITES) listed the entire genus of 'Hippocampus' species (seahorses) under CITES Appendix II to improve the management of the international trade. Further consideration is being given to listing all syngnathids under the Convention. Seven of the 47 syngnathid species listed in the 2000 IUCN (World Conservation Union) Red List of Threatened Species have been found in NSW waters. Most syngnathids are considered by the IUCN as vulnerable to impacts. [h=3]Collection for aquarium keeping[/h] Due to their interesting appearance, and ease of collection for those with knowledge of their habitat preferences, syngnathiformes (especially seahorses) are often collected for use in home aquariums. Seahorses require particular care in captivity and they usually only consume live food. Without special care many seahorses taken from the wild do not survive for very long. A number of aquaculture organizations have developed techniques for breeding and keeping seahorses, however only a limited number of species are currently available. Limited quantities of syngnathiformes may be collected for scientific purposes, as aquaculture broodstock or for other specific uses, however this is only be allowed under permit and only once the impacts of any proposed collecting is assessed to ensure the viability of local populations. The new protection afforded by the NSW Fisheries Management Act 1994 will allow better control and monitoring of the collection of these species. [h=2]Legal implications[/h] Protection is now afforded to all species of the 'Syngnathidae', 'Solenostomidae' and 'Pegasidae' families, which includes the seahorses, seadragons, pipefish, pipehorses, ghostpipefish and seamoths. It is illegal to catch and keep or possess syngnathiformes, (or any other protected species in NSW) without a permit or licence, and heavy penalties apply. For corporations, these penalties can include fines of up to $55,000 while in other cases they can include fines of up to $11,000 and up to 3 months in prison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camman Posted December 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 I've sent an email to they guy I brought them from asking him about that he literally had them in a tank at his shop pretty bold if it turns out to be illegal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadFishFloating Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 Bold or stupid. Not saying they were not from a legit supplier......... or not. Either way, its a good idea to see some paper work before becoming part of potential drama. There are not many captive bred seahorse species available in the trade, and I dont know of any collectors . How much is he charging? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camman Posted December 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 A bit he wasn't giving them away if there are any hidden surprises I want to know about it. He is sending me the literature on them so ill find out soon enough if it turns out they are protected what would the correct way to dispose of them be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquaaddict Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 if it turns out they are protected what would the correct way to dispose of them be prob gentle shallow fry, light batter and a good tarture sauce lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camman Posted December 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 I'll try that and let you know how they go might be on to something there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadFishFloating Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 A bit he wasn't giving them away if there are any hidden surprises I want to know about it. He is sending me the literature on them so ill find out soon enough if it turns out they are protected what would the correct way to dispose of them be. Contact the DPI. I dont pretend to speak for them citizen, and I certainly dont want anything to do with an investigation. Although I am sure its all above board and not going to come to that. As I said before I have only one phone call to NSW DPI years ago, to go on. Best to get the official word on what to do with a protected specie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tex Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 still want some .. Got a 4x2x2 just waiting for some fishies like these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
