kingcasper Posted December 29, 2012 Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 (edited) Also. Wild Oscar,Lemon Oscar, Golden Oscar Are thesefish able to be bought in Australia ? Ive never seen them in person before but I want one.. Have you guys ever seen them around ?? Also. Super Red Oscars are natural untouched oscars ?? or are they products of science ? Edited December 29, 2012 by kingcasper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azedenkae Posted December 29, 2012 Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 Wild (caught) and golden oscars are in Australia. Not sure about lemon. The 'super red' is just a product of in-/line-/selective breeding for the reddest oscars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingcasper Posted December 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 Oh okay thanks for the info I was amazed when i seen the pictures on google of the super red because of how RED it really is.. maybe they turned up the color or something but it just seemed way to red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azedenkae Posted December 29, 2012 Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 Well it's possible that oscars can be that red in nature, but the super reds in the hobby atm comes from Asian breeders, for which basically the reddest individuals are selected and breed for more and more red until tada, super red! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingcasper Posted December 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 and its possible to buy a super red in qld ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azedenkae Posted December 29, 2012 Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 Don't think so, never seen one in Qld before. You could always just import directly from overseas. Or go through someone like Jodi-Lea @ fishchick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alasse Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 I owned a lemon not long back, so they are here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
63off Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Did some checking (happy to be proven wrong) and it seems the super red variant is a result of a condition called amelanism. It's a bit like albinism except that it's a lack of melanin pigment so all the red pigment takes over. Singapore seems to be the go, as is the Philippines where they do a lot of line breeding for amazing coloured fish. Good luck with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azedenkae Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Did some checking (happy to be proven wrong) and it seems the super red variant is a result of a condition called amelanism. It's a bit like albinism except that it's a lack of melanin pigment so all the red pigment takes over. Singapore seems to be the go, as is the Philippines where they do a lot of line breeding for amazing coloured fish.Good luck with them. Mhm, I believe so as well, Red Oscars are just those lacking black pigment. Somewhere along the way someone selectively breed these for less and less black pigment and 'better' and 'better' red coloration to end up with 'Super' Red Oscars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
63off Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 To be honest I think I prefer the good old tiger oscar myself. Just love colour variations and different patterns. Apparently the red ones either aren't successful at breeding other red ones or they're not successful breeders at all. Not sure why you'd go for one of these over say a red devil, which is far easier to come by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azedenkae Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 To be honest I think I prefer the good old tiger oscar myself. Just love colour variations and different patterns. Apparently the red ones either aren't successful at breeding other red ones or they're not successful breeders at all. Not sure why you'd go for one of these over say a red devil, which is far easier to come by. I guess some people just strive for some sort of 'perfection'. In this case, 'perfectly' red. Though of course, 'perfection' in parentheses because everybody regards perfection differently. Then again, I just find oscars butt-ugly full stop. Have never even considered getting one. The long fin varieties are quite nice-ish (seen one with my own eyes, the fins looked amazing). But then I keep on seeing its face and the face just keeps on ruining it for me. :/ Whyyyy can't those beautiful fins be on something like a Convict. ( So to each their own I guess. XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wickkyjr Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Pet city has wild oscars ib there at the moment if your after some Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingcasper Posted December 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 I dont think any oscars are ugly ! and when u look at them they always seem to give me the impression there very smart! I could watch them all day I like "different" and these rare(er) kinds of oscars would suit me very well if only I could find them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
