Fishunter99 Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 i was told these were acei itungi bays? They started of bright yellow but are slowly going grey and i think are transitioning to black. theyre currently yellow with black along top fin like a elec yellow. now going washed out grey with blue in face, but im prety sure theyll go black Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braddo Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 sorry mate wish I could answer that for you. Will try and do some research for you though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishunter99 Posted January 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 thanks mate, was thinking they could be Pseudotropheus Sp. Acei Itungi(Tanzania Black Acei) . Not muchon them around, and are rare apparently. Which is why i dont wanna sell them tiill i know. If theyre not common ill raise them up to breed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braddo Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 are these also the same as tanzanian? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishunter99 Posted January 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 not sure mate, im as confuzed as you. yellow at 2cm when i got em, and 4cm theyre going black but blue in face at moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braddo Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 ok so the tanzanian I had always come out black as fry. Can you pm where you got them might be able to track it down that way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braddo Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 But there is always new varients floating around. Shame I wasnt at work I could call by on my way home. But dont know when I will be back on deck. As it is only up the road from you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishunter99 Posted January 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 but i could just grow them to 6cm and i should know then lol...not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braddo Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 Yeah true lol migth be the best way though. The name is new to me but havent been really looking for africans lately so that is no help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Breeders Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 hmmm Im not sure what that one is also. I doubt it is a acei of any species if it started yellow and turns black or dark. How bright yellow were they ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braddo Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 thanks somethingfishy thought I might have missed something. As I didnt think aceii had yellow fry niether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Breeders Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 any chance you can give us a better pick "maybe side on" I don't want to say it but it does somewhat resemble a dirty johanni at present as you can sort of see the dark line starting to appead down his lateral line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishunter99 Posted January 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 hmmmIm not sure what that one is also. I doubt it is a acei of any species if it started yellow and turns black or dark. How bright yellow were they ? they were like lelupi's real nice and yellow, but have started to go grey through body and blue in face. the guy i got em from was a nobody who got them from a guy who said they wrere acei itungi. the parents i saw were just black from what i remember and looked like but were not male crabro. sorta. but he was told acei itungi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishunter99 Posted January 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 ill get you some better pics right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishunter99 Posted January 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 here we go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbunamad Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 Could possibly be Metriaclima msobo magunga. They are yellow as fry and the males change to blue as they mature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
african-cichlids Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 Could even be a cross breed you never no and if that's the case you'll be chasing your tail. It definatly doesn't have the acei shape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishunter99 Posted January 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 yeh well im hoping not a cross, or ill have to freeze them all. theyre geting big now. but they dont look crossed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Breeders Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 Im on the sunny coast I can come have a looksy if you like. Would also like to check out your other africans. The fish is definatly not a aceii of any varient. More and more starting to look like a johanni or some cross. On the up side the young red fin kandango in the pic looks like good quality They don't look like msobo either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch86 Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 They would have to be either Johanni or Msobo, they can be hard to differentiate at that age. I was leaning towards Msobo but because there a fraction stockier than Johanni. With all due respect what am I missing that made you rule them out, something fishy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishunter99 Posted January 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 Im on the sunny coastI can come have a looksy if you like. Would also like to check out your other africans. The fish is definatly not a aceii of any varient. More and more starting to look like a johanni or some cross. On the up side the young red fin kandango in the pic looks like good quality They don't look like msobo either the red fin colony has now gone but i have sold many fry and have alot left. The colony came from an old guy named noel up here and were very nice fish, decided to move on. happy for you to come anytime and have a look mate. pm me an ill pm you my adress. just sold a few colonies so im getting low on fish but looking to buy more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braddo Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 Yeah noel does havr nice fish. I have been mates with him for many years. The yellows he has at the moment are really nice. Back to the problem fish. I would be with nigel on this and ssy they are crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Breeders Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 They would have to be either Johanni or Msobo, they can be hard to differentiate at that age. I was leaning towards Msobo but because there a fraction stockier than Johanni. With all due respect what am I missing that made you rule them out, something fishy? Im saying that 100% they are not Msobo however the msobo i breed were stockier than that and also seemed to be a deeper yellow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishunter99 Posted January 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 Thanks everyone for the help, im pretty on to 90% of cichlids, but it changes everything when theyre this small and changing all the time. Hope i can worjk it out. if not ill sell them as feeders lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishunter99 Posted January 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 really hoping i dont have to do that as i have raised them for 5 months now, def pseudotropheus though cos theyre bossy as hell lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...