goldenswimmers Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 These damn messy eating fish and best ways to go about keeping there tanks clean....my group of salvini seem to turn every meal into a woodchippers work and yep leave a nice layer of pellet "bits" all over the bottom of the tank....how do people deal with these fish with great culinary skills.....I imagine a few Oscar owners can help as I have heard these guys have similar dining habits... Don't know why but reminds me of a bunch of underwater cookie monsters...bits of cookie seem to go everywhere except...in the mouth... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smicko Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 Stop feeding them will solve it lol, sorry not sure how to deal with it I used to breed geos, same problem goes in the mouth and out the gills lol. Cheers mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenswimmers Posted June 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 yeah Im thinking the daily vac might be the only way....little pains in the butt....so any good substrate sifters that wont be killed by the salvinis or impact the breeding routine??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smicko Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 Hecklii should be able to handle themselves and get a decent size, hard to find good ones but and they might get in the way of breeding. I had a pair in with orange heads and they both bred well but the orangeheads are mouth brooders. Cheers mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 MTS work... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smicko Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 MTS work... Go rod, so simple yet ultra effective. I didnt even think of that and I have them in all my shrimp tanks to do the same job lol Cheers mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenswimmers Posted June 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 MTS???... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch86 Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 Malaysian trumpet Snails Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISSY Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 Powerhead that isn't too powerful near the bottom of the tank so it blows all the junk off the bottom, then the filter will pick it up. Worked for me when I had geos. Just have to get the right amount of power so it doesnt blow the sand away... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenswimmers Posted June 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 I was thinking a smartly placed powerhead might do some magic...only problem my filtration is based on air pump/sponge filters so yep you can imagine how much debris these bad boys are catching...but don't mind going a bit more custom on the filtration for these guys... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenswimmers Posted June 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 (edited) Malaysian trumpet snails aye??.....hmmmmm....havent worked with the snail tribes really.....but as long as they don't form plague numbers am open for ideas Edited June 10, 2013 by goldenswimmers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smicko Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 Malaysian trumpet snails aye??.....hmmmmm....havent worked with the snail tribes really.....but as long as they don't form plague numbers am open for ideas Sorry mate plague numbers are guaranteed lol. Clown loaches love the taste of them. The powehead sounds like a good idea just add a small canister to catch the crap. Cheers mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mq_camo Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 I found clown loaches to be awesome at cleaning up mess, those little guys go hard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt-sheeran Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 i am sick of this also with my africans. i was thinking with my canister i'm making i might make some kind of forked spray bar. like a sideways "U", 1 for the top agitation and then joint to another thats aiming at the gravel. the trick would defiantly be getting the power right so it doesn't blow away gravel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauljones82 Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 have you every considered a large goldfish mainly used to cycle tanks just worried about temperature i have a gourami community tank with bn and a pair of forest red jewels heavily planted i have three nymph fantails in there and they clean all night all day long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenswimmers Posted June 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 its the personality of some fiesty salvini that has to be dealt with by any new inhabitants too though....I would personally not keep a goldfish with salvini after seeing how they play....rough . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goneself Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 Salvini Love goldfish, especially the eyes. If you have hollow driftwood, you can try a few crays, they clean up left over food during the night. But, will also eat eggs and fry. Unfortunately, mess is just a given in american tanks wihout vaccing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lgw Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 undergravel jets seem to be the best bet, or just a spray bar aimed down low at the gravel. both need a canister though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lgw Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 or sump ^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machdad71 Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 I would definitely have to agree with Brissy, Goldenswimmer. I have 3 Oscar's in my 6x2x2 and they can make such a huge mess. I upped my filtration and I am running two 2000lph internal filters for mechanical filtration, (one in each opposite corner at the ends of the tank) with this setup I have constant circular water flow in my tank and I have also got them at the bottom of the tank so they blow any debris off the bottom of the substrate. At each end I also have external canister filters with the pickups in the same corner as the flow coming toward them from the opposite power heads. I have the outlet from these filters connected to short spray bars also stationed at each end of the tank. I have flow from one of these pointing down submerged under the waterline toward the middle of the tank and the one at the other end of the tank I have my other output spraying out above the water line across the top of the surface. Since setting up my filtration like this I rarely ever see food scraps in my tank and I don't even see fish droppings on the bottom any more. I also have 2 Pleco's in my tank as well and they are the Duck's nuts at cleaning up as well. I hope this has helped you mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenswimmers Posted June 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 I knew an Oscar man would come along.. these guys seem to eat cookie monster style so the info is greatly appreciated.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
