ado_84 Posted June 15, 2013 Report Share Posted June 15, 2013 Hey People i have been landscaping the house the last few month and i'm considerin puting in a pond. if i do it though i want to be able to keep african cichlids in it all or most the year round and the dogs need to be able to swim in it if they choose. so, would the dogs getting into it harm the fish apart for the obvious (flea treatment, stepping on, eating)?? and how deep would it need to be (deepest section) for it to maintain a managable temp. for cichlids? i have read the 'frontosa pond' artical on cichlid-forum (US) and a couple others.. what your thoughts? i have no kids and council regs don't bother me at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shon982 Posted June 15, 2013 Report Share Posted June 15, 2013 I built an above ground pond that is 10x4x2 so my dogs dont get into it, but they still jump up and drink water out of it and dunk their head under the water to see the fish bigger it is, the easier to keep fish in it I'm trialing some ventralis and ochrogenys in my pond through the winter to see how it goes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smicko Posted June 15, 2013 Report Share Posted June 15, 2013 As shon said. Mine is normally around 3ft deep, slighty varies with evaporation and rainfall but I have kept yellows in an ibc outside over winter. Just dont feed as much when its colder as they dont eat as much. Cheers mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ado_84 Posted June 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2013 i'm more leaning towardin inground as a feature to the yard.. what sort of temp does do the deeper above grounds keep/ im thinging inground would hold the heat better.. keep us posted [MENTION=2023]shon982[/MENTION] be interested to see if they survive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gringox Posted June 15, 2013 Report Share Posted June 15, 2013 Yes. Yes you should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ado_84 Posted June 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2013 mmm. [MENTION=8739]Gringox[/MENTION] will you heap me dig it out lol.... in thinking about 2*4metres at this stage.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gringox Posted June 15, 2013 Report Share Posted June 15, 2013 I would but I don't have a shovel mate sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smicko Posted June 15, 2013 Report Share Posted June 15, 2013 (edited) My above ground holds around 18 depending on rain. I winter rain drops it to around 16. I would love to help as well ado but everytime someone mentions work my shoulder throws itself out lol. Ken at cityfarmers browns plains (not sure if he's still there) dug an 18 000litre by hand so it can't be that hard lol. Cheers mick Edited June 15, 2013 by smicko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ado_84 Posted June 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2013 all good mate my bro lost his job so hes stayin with me for the time being.. he can dig it.. it'll be my work for a roof program Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobcat Posted June 15, 2013 Report Share Posted June 15, 2013 i can help dig silly it what i do well please let me help dig a hole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unheatedtank Posted June 15, 2013 Report Share Posted June 15, 2013 I have 3 marble BN in a 6x2x3 tank, still eating with temp at 9C at night or when raining recently... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ado_84 Posted June 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2013 (edited) [MENTION=5829]bobcat[/MENTION] that drotts to big, wouldnt get it in the yard.... how'd ya go on a shovel lol Edited June 15, 2013 by ado_84 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobcat Posted June 15, 2013 Report Share Posted June 15, 2013 hey come on silly i got bobcat and small excavators 2 hehe and yes i have shovel and all needed tools hit me up may as well dig u a dam let say 24 m by 10 m and 4 -7 m deep plz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ado_84 Posted June 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2013 like your thinking bobcat, wish i'd know that last month when i had an excavator in boaring postholes into solid sandstone.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobcat Posted June 15, 2013 Report Share Posted June 15, 2013 come on really u had no idea really that i live to dig really well i can bring ute with tool if u wanna dig what sortta pond u putting in like a liner or a pond shell etc ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smicko Posted June 15, 2013 Report Share Posted June 15, 2013 I have 3 marble BN in a 6x2x3 tank, still eating with temp at 9C at night or when raining recently... I just meant that cold rain lowers the temperature of the pond. Its funny you say that about bn, I can see how much they eat by the clean sections on the bottom and they haven't slowed down but the larger americans and africans dont eat as much when its cold. When I throw food in over summer they smash it, over winter they only eat 2-3 pellets each then lose interest. Cheers mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ado_84 Posted June 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2013 (edited) [MENTION=5829]bobcat[/MENTION] i just thought your were an operator from you avatar.. do you own any 'cat' i work for hastings deering.. anyhow back on track does anyone know what temp the bottom of, lets say a 3 foot deep pond, in ground, would hold at during winter around seqld.. Edited June 15, 2013 by ado_84 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unheatedtank Posted June 15, 2013 Report Share Posted June 15, 2013 [MENTION=5829]bobcat[/MENTION] i just thought your were an operator from you avatar.. do you own any 'cat' i work for hastings deering..anyhow back on track does anyone know what temp the bottom of, lets say a 3 foot deep pond, in ground, would hold at during winter around seqld.. Hi ado, you see my name so you can see that I am playing with this idea for a while, and still think that only natives, live bearers and goldfish can excel in pond. One more issue will be green water and algae. View angle from above is also not very nice. However, I saw bunnings has the plastic zip white canvas, which can be used to cover the whole pond in winter to make it like a glass house type, the sun will heat the inside and the nylon cover will keep the heat. so the pond will have a carport like roof, and clear nylon zip down cover in winter and removed in summer. Running cost still very high when it rains for several days and heater is required. For now, still think indoor pond may be a cheap running cost option... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobcat Posted June 16, 2013 Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 in the job i got now we got 3 cat 226b and b2 nothing great got rid of all the other stuff no my choice i promise hate to say it out loud but i gotta drive a ecm 160-4 very loud little pozi track and the excavator i need 4, 5 or 8 tonne and if it easier work cat skiddy but i guess over the last 12 years yes sir i have had my time in the sun with the cat stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keeper10 Posted June 16, 2013 Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 i have a 14metre x 6metre x 8foot in the deepest part all good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ado_84 Posted June 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 i have a 14metre x 6metre x 8foot in the deepest part all good what do you keep in that? i don't have the space to go that deep.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smicko Posted June 16, 2013 Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 i have a 14metre x 6metre x 8foot in the deepest part all good Now that's a pond. Do you keep crocs in something that size lol. Cheers mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusty76 Posted June 16, 2013 Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 lol crocs! wat do u have in that? wat sorta temps u holding at wth that depth? mines 10000lts approx. 800 deep and the lowest Iv seen it at is 16.2 after some rain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobcat Posted June 16, 2013 Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 hit me back when ur ready to dig bro and i shall come over and help cause that is what i do well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keeper10 Posted June 16, 2013 Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 i breed guppies,platies,swords,goldfish,crayfish and other things in there in 2 foot off water lowest its gone is 9 in winter deep end holds at 24 at it lowest never lost a fish only if a crayfish get the ood one lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
