Timmy Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 Hi I was wondering if there's a strain of guppy the looks like a tiger endler. I have had a look at yellow cobra guppys but is there anything closer to a tiger endler? I have a heap of tiger enlers but I would like a stain where the female has some colour as well. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 Why not make your own..... Get females with colour in the tail.....virgin if possible or wait till they have fry....grow out girls separate to males then cross them with the tigers I'm developing a strain with snakeskin....females have colourful tails Bit of work...but fun! johnbetta 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Posted July 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 Thanks rod. I tried that a few months ago with a tiger endler females and awesome orange males. Long story short I think the females were to young ,I am to impatient and I ran out of tank space. I am down sizing (again) So I may just sell off all my guppys and only stock the main tank with tiger males and bright females. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny@ageofaquariums Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 Arent these then just guppys? I mean once you hybradize an endler, it then just becomes a fancy guppy. Plenty of guppies out there that have the occasional endler ancestor. But yea they aint endlers no more. johnbetta 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 (edited) The truth....most Endlers sold as pure....aren't When Endlers were first imported into Europe everyone thought they were a variety of guppy.....so just bred them with guppy females.....then line breeding to get a true breeding strain Black bar Endlers sold as pure....if they have white dorsals are actually hybrids Tiger Endlers are great little fish....particularly if you get a good stain Even the non pure Endlers are great fish....active colourful and prolific Real Endlers are stunning.... Cross breeding with guppies that are often inbreed and hard to keep alive create some great outcomes There are guppies, Endlers and hybrids.....some hybrids are more endler than guppy, and visa versa....Endlers or guppies with endler blood display differently to guppies Edited July 3, 2013 by Rod johnbetta 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny@ageofaquariums Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 Hybrids are just guppies man. God knows how many different species, colour morphs and locality sub species........ have been bred together to give us modern fancy guppys. But thats what they are, guppies. Endlers are endlers. And everything mixed is a guppy. Sure it can be a linebred tiger. But endler hybrids are guppies. Once mixed, they lose the right to be called endlers. The same is true of all fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 Fair enough Tiger Endlers are tiger guppies Chillie Endlers are chillie guppies Most black bar Endlers are black bar guppies My avatar is a peacock endler.... Seems though....Endlers crossed with guppies tend to look and act more like endlers than guppies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny@ageofaquariums Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 peacock is african for guppy so its a guppy guppy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 4, 2013 Report Share Posted July 4, 2013 ??? dont you mean a Guppy Endler? Endlers aint Guppies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny@ageofaquariums Posted July 4, 2013 Report Share Posted July 4, 2013 correction then guppy endler. just what I need, a lesson in tautonym tautology! you'd think I learnt my lesson after the whole pandanus tandanus debacle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kangakoi Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 Dear Mr Rod, I have mentioned many time before there is Wingei and there is Endler. The fish in your avatar is it a Wingei or a Endler? sometime is veryhard to explain that difference between that "Flash" of colour.....let face it Mr Rod, you are no way a good artist..hihihi. I invite all that interested in the fish please go over to Endlersusa.com and read the whole website from top to bottom first then come back for conversations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 Cant argue kanga....you're right....its a coloured gambusia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kangakoi Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 Mr Rod, I notice that your joint of forum date was Jan 1970 and just wondering was that your Married date or the date that you start to keep fish? I am sure the PC and the Internet were far off that mark.....in fact it older than I am.....hihihi... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 (edited) Mmmm....Don't believe everything you read! This forum has had several reincarnations..... Those who were members of the first iteration have been given the 1970 date I'd been keeping swordtails for 4 years that year.....married 9 years later.... Real join date....200? Edited July 25, 2013 by Rod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kangakoi Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 (edited) Oh, that's why.....thank you Edited July 25, 2013 by kangakoi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...