Nini Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 I've been told some of these mightn't be legit underwater plants.. I have no idea about names, so I can't google them.. it would all be "green, freshwater leafy stuff".. and that doesn't help anyone :s I sort of bought them as an "I don't know what's in there" type thing--from a reliable seller--but I just want to make sure I know what I have, lol .. I'll learn names one day, I swear :\ Number one: Number two: Number three: (was told this would most likely die, so I'm prepared for that xD ) Number four: (if this is bad, I'm punching a kitten) Number five: (pretty sure this is 100% okay.. "foxtail" / "hornwort" from what I could figure out/was told? .. this was the only name I remembered :s ) Thanks in advance, ~Nini. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PETFISH Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 not possative but i think that 1,2 and 3 are not aquatic and 4 and 5 are but im sure someone else who know's more about water plant's will let you know 4 sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lochdan Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 I know about aquatic plants but was once told that no 'true' aquatic plant can support it's own weight out of water ... it seems there's no need of strong stalks in a buoyant environment. So I'm agreeing with PETFISH .... those first three look a little woody But it also gets really confusing because some terrestrial plants can live for a long time submerged. Maybe your question should be 'how long can I expect my plants to live submerged in water?' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nini Posted July 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 Hm, the stalk thing makes sense. The first three were definitely easier to put in (weren't moving around because of the water).. and the 4th was a complete butt.. kept dodging the gravel and floating..lol 5th wasnt a problem because i just dumped handfuls of gravel on top of it in bunches xD mua ha. ha. Is it too late to change the question? O.O lol Are the first three going to give my fish aids? Or die through reasons that aren't my fault (if you ignore the fact I'm kind of drowning them..)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lochdan Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 Sometimes google-ing just does your head in .... "Strictly aquatic plants (hydrophytes) have an obligate submerged, emergent or floating growth habit and do not grow well out of water. Semi-aquatic plants have aerial leaves and stem but require roots to remain submerged or in moist ground. Amphibious plants grow equally well submerged or emersed, and often with distinctly different growth morphology or phenology between the two habits. Helophytes are essentially terrestrial plants that tolerate extended periods of time submerged in water but usually live a terrestrial existence." All I get from that is ... some plants love water, some hate it, and some don't give a rats either way Doesn't answer your question either but I just thought I'd share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nini Posted July 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 (edited) I feel dumber after reading that o.o THANKS! hahahaha Sometimes google is just no help -- there IS such a thing as too much information! lol.. I don't know why it wouldn't just give me a yes/no Edited July 26, 2013 by Nini Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJ Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 Most aquarium plants have an emerse form or growth stage. number 1: looks like Hygrophila polysperma number 2: looks like Hygrophila difformis (Wisteria) number 3: maybe Telanthera 'Rosefolia' (AKA Alternanthera reineckii var. 'Rosefolia') number 4: looks like Hydrocotyle leucocephala (Brazillian or Giant Pennywort) number 5: yup, Ceratophyllum demersum (Hornwort or Foxtail) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gung-ho1900 Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 (edited) The first one looks like hygrophila polysperma, Second I've never seen before, Third looks like sao paulo/Persicaria sp and needs co2 and needs high light to survive Fourth is Hydrocotyle leucocephala? diffidently the Hydrocotyle family Fifth you know that one is but that's is my guess on what you have good luck Woops I should of checked before posting PeterJ beat me to it haha Edited July 26, 2013 by gung-ho1900 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nini Posted July 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 (edited) Someone get PeterJ a cookie! .. or ten!! So, would that make Google right in saying that the 4 of them (excluding Rosefolia, because it's just there til it dies from lack of techstuff) will be tank-happy long term? Yeah, I was sitting here distracted and forgot to reply, haha.. I'm not OVERLY phased about the first three.. I only paid $6 for all of them.. and I've blown more than that on plastic plants..lol so having 2/3 that MIGHT be good.. is pretty awesome xD Edited July 26, 2013 by Nini Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJ Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 Sounds about right. If you're convinced the red one is giving up you could give it a go emerse. Put in a pot with some clay at the bottom and sand on top, then submerge it (but only just cover it) in a container and place it somewhere that gets a bit of sunlight. Possibly not the best time of year to try, but there's not much to lose if it's not surviving the tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nini Posted July 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 Oh, it hasn't started falling apart yet, only got them today .. but I was told they wouldn't last too long with low light. I have 2 in the tank at the moment.. The boyfriend stole a stalk to put in his sanded/super lit tank in the garage, so it's a race to the death! (only because I know I'll win if it's to kill it xD .. unless his fish eat it first). I might give it a try if it starts to look a bit sad, but I'm not sure I trust my plant-patience...haha it'll most likely get dumped in his tank or the bin <.< I have purple gravel that just needs a rinse to put the purple back in the tank xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny@ageofaquariums Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 I've been told some of these mightn't be legit underwater plants.. I have no idea about names, so I can't google them.. it would all be "green, freshwater leafy stuff".. and that doesn't help anyone :s I sort of bought them as an "I don't know what's in there" type thing--from a reliable seller--but I just want to make sure I know what I have, lol .. I'll learn names one day, I swear :\Number one: Number two: Number three: (was told this would most likely die, so I'm prepared for that xD ) Number four: (if this is bad, I'm punching a kitten) Number five: (pretty sure this is 100% okay.. "foxtail" / "hornwort" from what I could figure out/was told? .. this was the only name I remembered :s ) Thanks in advance, ~Nini. I would consider all of these plants good beginer ones, except for the red one. None really need high light to survive (except the red) but will certainly thrive more under it. I would expect them to grow in a partly shady pond........ or under even T8's in a tank. These plants are often grown using hydroponics, and as said will then grow an aquatic form under water. The Wisteria will have a totally different leaf. The main difference the Wisteria, cardamine vine, hyrgo and even red, have from the foxtail...... is that they can grow in the water AND out of it. Not a bad plant selection IMHO, but then I may have sold them lol Its a combo I reccomend to people to test their lighting. If the lighting keeps them alive, some liquid ferts and easycarbo will see some good growth. If however the lighting is not sufficient for those species, I would likely suggest anubias, java ferns/moss, crypts or even elodea. They are the true champions of low lighting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nini Posted July 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 I put a picture up on ~cough~ a different site ~cough~ .. and someone said they weren't real aquarium plants and would all die.. (or something, I may be being slightly more dramatic, but that was the impression they gave me..) .. it made me a little worried.. Being that you like to take my money and I like spending it, I just wanted to double check without putting you in it if they were poops.. You did, however, say you weren't sure what was in the "random" bunch.. and that the red one needed a lot of light (which I don't have so I gave it up for dead). I was just worried about the other two, which somehow made itself branch off to the two that I was already sure of .. and before you know it, I was getting ready to dig graves for my peps XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny@ageofaquariums Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 Its always good to get as many opinions as possible. Plants are heaps harder than fish hey! The red one may slowly die over weeks..... but at least one of the others is going to do well and take advantage of the space . The plan is always to get someone from buying new plants......... to cutting back the growth in their tank. Its a nice feeling to have too much plants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nini Posted July 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 Hell yeah.. This was why I went for plastic plants -- they don't need light or anything.. but one bad piece of plastic and I had to get more technical lol .. I don't think I'll get to the high-tech stuff though.. Stick to the easy unkillable stuff xD I'll sell them back to you for $5 a bunch when I have a plant overload hahahaha On a different note: How long does it take peps to fall back in love with their cave? >.> The male is making himself a home in the driftwood .. .. .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
