mike_vr90 Posted July 31, 2013 Report Share Posted July 31, 2013 sorry cant get better photos but some of the baby bn have 3d looking white dots on them and some don't...... and then in another tank I have fronnies and a comp and more bn some have the same thing but the comp is the worst by far. please help me id what this is so I can start treatment asap, I have formalin malachite, ichonex and fungonex all by aquasonic to choose from or a multicure in another brand I forget name... ill try n get better photos doesn't help that the bn have little white markings on them to begin with....... also there looks like a gold dust over some of the bn on the head in between the eyes etc.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_vr90 Posted July 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2013 I don't know if plants can get it but they are little white specs on the plant, so not sure if its ich or what it is, don't want to treat the wrong thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nini Posted July 31, 2013 Report Share Posted July 31, 2013 I have it at the moment, I've been told there's a lot going around right now too.. I have peppermint bns with it, but there's a definite difference in the white spots, and the spots from the disease.. It looks like they have sand on them (but I have no sand in my tank).. I have it on guppies too--but that stands out a lot easier than it does on the peps.. There was another post where someone had gold spots, and it was Valvet(? or something).. so you'll need to identify the colour before you can treat it (obviously) .. If it IS whitespot, I've been told to use protozin, it's by waterlife and a few members have said they swear by it. It won't harm the bacteria in your tank, and is safer to use for the sensitive fish -- loaches and fry etc. You can also up the temp in the tank to 30 degrees, just make sure you have an airstone or something to replace the oxygen (because warmer water means less oxygen in the water). I'm sure more experienced members will be able to help you out, but that's the info I have so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasman Posted July 31, 2013 Report Share Posted July 31, 2013 first fish looks like its just grazed itself on a rocks or wood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_vr90 Posted July 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2013 If it is white spot wouldn't all fish be affected not just around 5%.? I don't want to treat something that's not there as the cherry shrimp have it but from what I've read shrimp can't get ich? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_vr90 Posted July 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2013 It's also only like maybe 2-3 dots on the ones I'm thinking have it, my eyes better not be making me trip out and see something that's not there lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nini Posted July 31, 2013 Report Share Posted July 31, 2013 It's a parasite.. so one will get it, the parasite will drop off, explode into more, then find another fish to infect.. I'm not saying you have it (I couldn't really see much in the pics unfortunately), but that's how it works. It started in my tank with 1 guppy having a few dots around its gills, and I just assumed it was nothing serious or food or something..and the next day 3 of them were spotty.. and I facepalmed and got some stuff (that didn't work) and then had to get protozin...The fish were definitely mopey and not happy looking though.. if you watch them enough, they tell you when something isn't right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny@ageofaquariums Posted July 31, 2013 Report Share Posted July 31, 2013 The comp definitely doesnt look so crash hot......... How long since you added any new fish/plants? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_vr90 Posted July 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2013 Over a week ago, there's feeder fish in there since tank start up and they're fine tho. If I dose the tank to be safe I will lose over 100 cherry's hence why I don't want to, in the other tank so far all I can see is the comp not doing good, cloudy eyes etc, I moved it out into another tank and added salt, Bumped up all tanks to 30 to be safe, going to watch and see if it destroys my setup, If so it will all be for sale as I'm really over my luck lately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny@ageofaquariums Posted July 31, 2013 Report Share Posted July 31, 2013 make sure surface is rippled welll by filter outputs as not much oxygen can stay in water at 30degC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_vr90 Posted July 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2013 Will it come them with a cotton bud if wiped the dots with one or are they like mini barnacles, I've had this before ages ago but it's bloody hard to tell with 15mm bristles lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New-Fry Posted July 31, 2013 Report Share Posted July 31, 2013 Look at the baby BN bellys for the spots. If they have it you'll know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_vr90 Posted July 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2013 No spots on any bellies, I think I'll wait til morning and see what's going on then, there none near any gills either, my fingers are crossed that its just the colour of em, and I'll be able to see if the comps skin has healed a little bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New-Fry Posted July 31, 2013 Report Share Posted July 31, 2013 I had white spot go through my bristlenose tank a few weeks ago. It was very noticeable on there bellys. Like someone had sprinkled salt on them. Unfortunately I lost all but two of the babies from three batches of fry. Utterly devastating. Now its gone though, their bellys are looking nice and smooth again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_vr90 Posted July 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2013 I'll just wait and see wth is going on so far 4 dead bn babies but not one of them has a single raised white dot on them, I thought I have 20-20 vision if its not the spot I'm going to get ma eyes checked lol, oh and thank you everyone for helping muchly appreciated!!! Reason I'm stressed is I'm fish sitting and the comp, fronnies and bn in the top tank aren't mine, luckily I didn't set up my new sump tonight like I was planning too other wise if its ich in the middle tank it would have spread to them 10 fold. Now only time will tell what's going on, one possible explanation is the some of the babies couldn't hack the transfer from the 2fter to the 4fter, well I hope that's all it is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HannibalsMum Posted July 31, 2013 Report Share Posted July 31, 2013 (edited) i had a problem of this, i used protazin an it took a little bit however i got rid of it. i have loaches that are little buggers to treat, an i found it the best stuff to use without harming them... (i currently have a l/f b/n an gourami in treatment for other things an its working really well for that) i have one sword tail female that kept coming up with it an she was the only one to show anything, however after a day i saw a spot on another fish. stress can make white spot flare up, i ended up taking both my male molly an sword tail out to calm the tank down a bit ( they can be bullies sometimes). my b/n also have what looks like a gold dusting on parts of their bodies, an they have been like that since i have had them. it maybe just their coloring (very pretty in the right light). if you arnt sure ask a b/n breeder, however i have a funny feeling its just part of their charm... i understand what you are talking about on your plants cause i had the same thing, (white almost seethough blobs on the end of stalks if you look close enough) its the only time i had seen it in my tanks, not only on the plants. from what i understand of this evil little bug is that what you are seeing on the plants are polyps, where you need to kill it is between when they are the polyps to when they go looking for fresh meat were they will attach themseves (they are a parisite). from what i have been told an understand, raising the temp, o2 an low water flow makes them breed an hatch quicker, which in turn will get killed off quicker by the meds. sorry to say that they wont come off with cotton buds either... also i dont think that the b/ns would like it to much unless you have them very well trained.. lol from my experiance, keep the meds up for bout 7-10 days. an do ALL tanks, strelize your nets an containers to be on the safe side. (dont forget to take out any carbon... xD ) an try to keep the fish as stress free as possable. treat them to some blood worm/brine shrimp (frozen will do) to help with protien IF they are eating, (my b/n's love the blood worm). if i am wrong with anything someone will let you know an correct it. this is just what i did for my kids, it may be differnt for you. it is a scary thing to have when you dont know what it is, an i have lost a few fish due to it ( an some of them showed no signs of even having it externaly, an i thought i couldnt keep that type of fish) just hang in there. the fish will let you know when they arnt feeling to good.. Edited July 31, 2013 by HannibalsMum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butch50 Posted July 31, 2013 Report Share Posted July 31, 2013 Hi mike don't panic just do some water changes and check it all again the white spots on the fern is just uneaten food probably [give a rinsoff] you could give the comp a salt bath and see how he goes if your worried Cheers Butch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_vr90 Posted August 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 (edited) All I can say is thank the fish gods lol, it's not the spot so im stoked, will be still keeping an eye on them but hey who doesn't like looking at their fish? I swear when you stare at something long enough you will see whatever your mind is telling you that you don't want to see, and with how many others have had ich I was certain it was my turn, but at least I was armed and ready with a heap of medication from [MENTION=1338]The Tech Den[/MENTION] so if it does come my way ill be ready to rock n roll Thanks everyone for your input from the newbies to the oldies Cheers mike Edited August 1, 2013 by mike_vr90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HannibalsMum Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 *has a lil dance* whhooottt!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nini Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 YAY!! White spot doesn't seem to want to leave my tank at the moment.. It's being a real see-you-next-tuesday.. Wouldn't wish it on anyone .. Good to see you were just a little crazy, and your fish are happy and healthy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_vr90 Posted August 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 [MENTION=10799]Nini[/MENTION] Hopefully it's dies off for you! Last time I had it I lost a heap of stock and that sucked, but at least now you know how to nip it in the butt if it ever comes back again which I hope it doesn't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nini Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 Yeah, first step: No more guppies from pet shops > .. Just lucky I don't have "a heap of stock" to lose -- but I was rather attached to the male pep it killed What did yours turn out to be ? .. Leftover food? or was it a nothing that you imagined to be something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_vr90 Posted August 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 I think I transferred a batch of bn fry across to early and some just didn't love life after that, and the coloration of them was what through me off as the have a lot of white in them to begin with, just didn't really notice until they went into the 4ft grow out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGT Posted August 11, 2013 Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 I used to have some fish infected with white spot. I found that the most effective way of getting rid of it is to run an ozone air pump, for 15 - 20 minutes each time, 2 - 3 times a day for a few days. I have cherry shrimps, corydoras, loaches, guppies, tetras, etc. in a community tank. The ozone seems did no harm to shrimps and fishes. All white spots are gone. Anyone used this before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilpierre Posted August 11, 2013 Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 Yes ... Ozone is another great way to control pathogens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
