PeterJ Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 Queenslanders illegally selling noxious fish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanoz Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 I also heard recently [MENTION=316]PeterJ[/MENTION] that the "True" Honey Blue Eye found in the Sunshine Coast Area is also facing extinction and extensive fines if you are caught with them. I also heard that Fisheries are doing nothing to help regenerate these beautiful fish back into our waterways buy making them a catch and release fish only. This is sad considering one of the main creeks that they were found in has been demolished in Noosa and that there is only 2 creeks left known to man on where they are only just surviving. Do you think ANGFA will do anything to help keep these fish around in our waterways and also in our industry of fish keeping, I know I would have opted for some local Honey's if I could have "Legally" gotten some but I went for the Spotted Blue Eyes from Dave at Aquagreen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJ Posted August 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 Honey Blue-eyes are protected under the Nature Conservation Act (not fisheries) which is why you can't collect them without a scientific permit. However, because ANGFA members were breeding them before they were listed the regulations allow people in possession of them to give them to others (it's illegal to buy or sell them in Qld). We have a number of members who breed them and will give them away to people who'll look after them (obviously they tend to look after other members first ). If you do get some you need to keep a record of who they came from (name, address & contact) for the time you have them and 2 years after. We encourage people to use them instead of goldfish in backyard ponds because they have a wide temperature tolerance. We also work with some of the catchment groups to encourage habitat rehabilitation but there's limits to how far we can stretch ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chazycraig Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 does this mean that they won't be so common in the future? if so, does any have sum they are willing to spread around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yodapwnsasmurf Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 The department said the rise correlated with an increase in the number of online advertisements for the fish species.Noxious species, including Tilapia, Gambusia and Carp, were the most commonly sought after. I can't say I've ever seen an add that said WTB: Carp. Or those other species either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanoz Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 Thanks Peter, Dave made me a member on the ANGFA Database when I purchased my Spotted Blue Eyes from him. A grat site for anyone interested in keeping Natives as the site is full of amazing info. It would be nice to know who is keeping the Honey's and what they are doing to make sure that they are breeding and producing lots of fry to help keeping them not only in our tank but back in our waterways too. One other question, people who do keep them, do they ever get requested to putting some of their fry back into the wild? Would hate to find out that one day there will be none around for future generations to keep and admire as even though I don't have any I do love my Spotted Blue Eyes a lot and would love to one day have some "True" Honey Blue Eyes in my collection. Thanks again for your info, I might try to get to an ANGFA meeting one day!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
africanman79 Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 I've seen tilapia & gambusia for sale on gumtree so it happens. & I to would love some honeys for an outdoor tub, if anyone has any. Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny@ageofaquariums Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 I have seen gambusia for sale in more than one lfs as "feeders". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
africanman79 Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 I've never seen them sold as feeders but i have seen them sold as pacific blue eyes in a lfs. They were very embarassed to say the least when pointed out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJ Posted August 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 One other question, people who do keep them, do they ever get requested to putting some of their fry back into the wild? [MENTION=4720]Shanoz[/MENTION] it's actually illegal under fisheries legislation to release any fish into a waterway without a permit - and there are some good reason's why. That being said if someone's pond or farm dam gets flooded it's much better if it's honey blue-eyes escaping than goldfish (feral goldies do their fair share of destruction). Many of us would like to work more closely with DAFF and EHP on threatened fish recovery programmes but both of those departments have/are losing a lot of staff and are spread very thin. Best way to source them is to come along to a meeting and catch up with those who breed them. For the most part honeys breed themselves given some water, some plants, and some privacy . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanoz Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 Yeah I understand, I knew that would have been the case, just thought that since they do it for other animals why not a fish that's native to the area. Anyway, a meeting might be called for, thanks again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJ Posted August 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 I should've mentioned, we're expecting to have some featured in the mall display next Friday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dexxl Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 I've got honey blue eyes in my tank, had them for 2 years now, 2 males and 3 females. They've only ever produced 2 fry... none of them have ever died Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanoz Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 Where did you get them from [MENTION=1442]dexxl[/MENTION]? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
