cichlidgurl Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 what do you guys think ? sorry they are not good photos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Tschumy Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 Hard to tell exactly from photos but looks a little saulosi like, but could very well be johanni as they are quite similar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt_a Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 Definitely not johanni. They could well be interruptus. I'm beginning to think we don't actually have johanni in Australia at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlidgurl Posted November 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 i knew they weren't johanni when he started turning blue cuz i have a male that is definitely johanni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aqc247 Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 Definitely not johanni. They could well be interruptus.I'm beginning to think we don't actually have johanni in Australia at all. good call Matt; common johanni have been around for decades , but the ones to get back then were the Likoma island. After seeing how the fish really look in the wild, it's difficult to accept most mbuna here as true breeds unless you know the lineage etc. makes for a pretty display anyhow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt_a Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 i knew they weren't johanni when he started turning blue cuz i have a male that is definitely johanni [ATTACH]41655[/ATTACH] That's not a johanni either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlidgurl Posted November 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 That's not a johanni either. what is it then ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny@ageofaquariums Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 Its a black and blue meany! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt_a Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 The one at the back is a cyaneorhabdos and the one at the front could be an interruptus, or maybe an interruptus/johanni hybrid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlidgurl Posted November 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 i know that the other one is a maingano but what makes you think the other isn't a johanni ? just curious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt_a Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 It's quite obvious to me. Johanni males look very similar to your maingano, except the females are orange/yellow. The vertical bars on the fish above are a dead giveaway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt_a Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 Here are a couple of borrowed photos for comparison: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlidgurl Posted November 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 so is the top one a Maingano and the other one a johanni? looking at some pics and he does look like a interruptus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt_a Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 Both of the photos above are johanni. They are from two of the three locations where johanni are found. As you can see there is not much variance between each location. Many years ago there was one population of interruptus that was given the provisional name of Pseudotropheus (was Melanochromis at the time) sp. 'johanni eastern' and I think this is where the confusion stems from. I would guess that over the years a few aquarists have mixed them up which is why we now have this situation where pure johanni are nowhere to be found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlidgurl Posted November 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 well that sucks lol so my other male and females that i got else where may not be johanni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlidgurl Posted November 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2013 this is a fish that i got that was labeled johanni he is going through his colour change. sorry for crappy pic i only guessed that the other one was johanni because it wasnt labeled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Breeders Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 I would love to see anyone in Australia with a picture of there OWN johanni that the male looks like a maingano and yellow females Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlidgurl Posted November 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 I would love to see anyone in Australia with a picture of there OWN johanni that the male looks like a maingano and yellow females yes that would be nice will have to wait and see what the male that is changing colour will look like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Breeders Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 Im guessing nobody has a Johanni that looks like a Maingano and has yellow girls.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wraith Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 I think Steveandjules have some Johanni (the real deal, not the interruptus that gets sold as Johanni at many places). When I was over their place last time I remember talking to Steve about it, but don't remember if he actually had some or just helped me identify mine as interruptus. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve6610 Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 thanks [MENTION=8288]wraith[/MENTION], but sadly my males have now coloured up and don't look like the pics above that matt posted, they are different to the inturuptus but not exactly like the ones you find on google, so i too am hoping somebody will post up a photo of their male johanni that looks like these photos above, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pullo Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 Ive got 3 males johannii and 1 looks liket these sort of and the other two have a sort of checkered sort of pattern dont know how to post pictures ththough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kat393 Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 I have some Johanni, and i believe the 1 @chiclidgurl has is a Johanni also, I have the same males an the yellow females plus if you click on this link... looks pretty similiar to me(Top row, middle) .. African - Cichlids - Freshwater Will try to up upload some pics.. wont let me on my phone can txt them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerbeer Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 The problem is the the fish that are sold as johanni in Australia, are almost all interruptus. So [MENTION=9247]cichlidgurl[/MENTION], the picture of your definite johanni, is a definite 'aussie johanni", or interruptus. [MENTION=11610]kat393[/MENTION] again that is the "aussie johanni" that is being sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve6610 Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 i have to agree with you [MENTION=231]gingerbeer[/MENTION] , 99% of the johanni sold are really interuptus or interuptus x johanni, [MENTION=11610]kat393[/MENTION] my brother bought his "johanni" from livefish and he still has them, sadly they turned out like an interuptus, i got a few from him when i was visiting him, i now have some more that were bought as johanni, sadly i don't think they are real ones either, i think we need to just accept we have as ginger says "aussie johanni" photo of a young johanni male i bought from here, these were bought as 3 to 4 cm fry, this was the first male to colour up, he has changed slightly, but still has the vertical stripes, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
