th3f0rg0t3n Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 Let's say theoretically your neighbour decides to let loose with a type of round-up poison around the perimeter of your home, To the extent, when you arrive home your lungs and nose has a burning type of ache sensation. Windows are all open in your house and there's a very decent chance the wind has blown some of this along inside... Is there a chance that this can affect your fish when using Airpump's, internal filters that also have air driven functions?? Or am i just being a FISH NAZI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jareth Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 Yep your just a ****ing weirdo !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
th3f0rg0t3n Posted March 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 thanks J DOG for your worthless input, im after someone with some actual knowledge on this topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lictoga Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 Shoot the neighbor, how liberal Do you need to get with roundup. Any signs on the fish? Any activated carbon in the filters would help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
th3f0rg0t3n Posted March 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 No signs of fish being affected as of yet [MENTION=11301]Lictoga[/MENTION] , and NO carbon in my filters only purigen, should i be worried ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lictoga Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 Keep eye on them, could do a water change, no experience with purigen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
th3f0rg0t3n Posted March 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 purigen/macropore resins, not sure it would be able to remove such poison from the aquarium but i do have 2 containers full of the seachem carbon if that will be needed : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tech Den Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 Here are the MSDS sheets for RoundUp so you know what your are dealing with. Materials Safety Data Sheets Might pay to add the carbon and do water changes as if it is in your tank the water change may help dilute/remove some of it and would try the carbon - do not think you will find that macropore or purigen will help in this situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tech Den Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 Here is another link to have a bit of a read on. Roundup Herbicide Toxic To Life In Parts Per Billion Range Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
th3f0rg0t3n Posted March 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 Thanks [MENTION=1338]The Tech Den[/MENTION] , would you assume that the cloth filter that is in the SERA for example air pumps would keep this out of the water ? all tanks have hoods on etc but can never be too safe, and only existing otto internals that i have and use do have filter wool inside before the air intake, just cant help but worry a little, i plan to have a good chat with my neighbour as soon as i can get hold of him about future use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
th3f0rg0t3n Posted March 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 i did however shut my house up as soon as i got home to find him spraying around the home, i then opened the house back up with all fans etc within 2 hours after spraying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tech Den Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 If you are worried you could run gladwrap around the hoods for a bit to seal it as such. Don't know how fine the cloth is or how small the particles are so can not really say anything on that part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
th3f0rg0t3n Posted March 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 yeah good idea, im hesitant to even do a water change at this point in time as i dont even want to open up my tanks and possibly allow any particles from outside inside them, will be sure to do 50% water changes on all tanks tomorrow, dose heavy with easy life as i go around. FINGERS CROSSED bloody elderly inconsiderate neighbours! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lictoga Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 Why was he spraying around your house in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
th3f0rg0t3n Posted March 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 One of those type of neighbours, retired, nothing better to do then plot along building/fixing thing's in his back shed and keeping the area around his house clear, Behind our properties is a council easement type of thing with abit of forestry and such, so he takes it upon himself to clean up that back area and such. Really quite frustrating that he has done this as when i still step out on my back verandah i can still smell/taste the stuff in the air, Has me quite concerned. I'm really hoping nothing will come of this. But thought I would seek other people's personal experiences with this type of problem, I mean it has to have happened to someone else on here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lictoga Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 When we round up around my place it's normally diluted so you can't even smell it, as per instructions, and haven't had problems still kills weeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
th3f0rg0t3n Posted March 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 That's the type of feedback I need to hear about now Will be keeping a watchful eye on them to be sure old man has not done any damage to them. But will commence the 50% w/c's tomorrow with a high dose rate of easy life (oh what an excuse to grab another 5L bottle of easy-life) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosquito Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 Yeah if it's that strong, I wonder has he been using it straight?.. Maybe you've just got a strong sense of smell.. If he's used it in the right ratios you should be fine. But that sounds pretty full on if you can smell it like that.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
th3f0rg0t3n Posted March 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 Yeah my sense of smell is fairly decent, i can smell the shower on the other end of my house if the exhaust fan isn't switched on LOL, And i would expect him being elderly and could be somewhat used to the smell of toxic thing's like round-up would be immune to it, Bit of a guessing game as to how it will play out, as i certainly dont want to be opening tanks/filters this soon after the event, but tomorrow is a different story@! Will be keeping my FINGERS CROSSED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny@ageofaquariums Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 Due to the billion$ involved in the global sale of round up, its been a protected species. Buuuuuuuuuut recently there has been a few papers on the fact its use tends to mirror a sudden local increase in kidney disease in human populations. Personally having walked around in nurserys and tree plantations with a leaky backpack tank filled with glyphosate........... I hate to think how much I have had soak into me skin or inhaled. Probably not so bad short term for fish......... be more worried about aquarium plants growing themselves to death. Dramatic Increase in Kidney Disease in the US and Abroad Linked To Roundup (Glyphosate) 'Weedkiller' - Waking Times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piraterides2020 Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 One of those type of neighbours, retired, nothing better to do then plot along building/fixing thing's in his back shed and keeping the area around his house clear,Behind our properties is a council easement type of thing with abit of forestry and such, so he takes it upon himself to clean up that back area and such. Really quite frustrating that he has done this as when i still step out on my back verandah i can still smell/taste the stuff in the air, Has me quite concerned. I'm really hoping nothing will come of this. But thought I would seek other people's personal experiences with this type of problem, I mean it has to have happened to someone else on here... Hey just a thought mate but have you gone over and had a chinwag with old mate so it doesn't happen again?. Couldn't hurt surely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lictoga Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 How did you go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
th3f0rg0t3n Posted March 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 Did all 50% water changes today with as mentioned earlier HUGE dose of easy life / prime , all fish seem to be happy and healthy which has me feeling alot better!@! - still haven't managed to get hold of the neighbour to have a word with him, but his time will come anyday now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karen Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 Hey mate, whilst I am classified as a plant expert, I am not classified as a plant care expert - So my advice thoughts probably mean no more then anyones. but hopefully this will put your mind at rest a little.... herbicides. pesticides etc always concern me sprayed around fish etc without covering the tanks... But whilst we worry and can smell it realistically your neighbour was hopefully responsible and sprayed when there was no wind and spraying low growing weeds etc . .. Whilst its unsettling and there is a smell am thinking that you should be all good if you have a responsible neighbour. In saying that I would have a chat to him so if anything similar was going to happen in the future he would discus it with you. Becareful with water changes if using hoses that could be close to fence lines and contaminated etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
th3f0rg0t3n Posted March 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 Thanks for that [MENTION=7267]Karen[/MENTION] , Unfortunately there was a decent wind blowing yesterday after the event but I did notice it could have been helping (hopefully) pushing the spray/fumes elsewhere, I did notice him using a BACK-PACK type sprayer and being elderly highly doubt he was bending over in any way to reach what he was spraying lol, and lastly, i too thought the same thing whilst doing my waterchanges today about possible contamination from the ground/area where my hoses go both front/back yard, i treated it very carefully when doing the actual water changes but as of now after laying the hose down the yard to neatly fold it back up and place inside, i might just need to give it a good bath with a boiling kettle a few times to play it safe ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
