mortie Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 What happens if a male common bristlenose and albino bristlenose breed together do you get a mix of babies or ? There's a batch of eggs in there as of 11pm last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riley Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 they will probably have commons and albinos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortie Posted April 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 Yeah that's what I recon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mines bigger Posted April 29, 2014 Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 if the common has the albino recessive gene(which is fairly likely) there will be a decent percentage of albino fry, if not you should not get any albino fry at all, have a look for punnet squares to help you get your head around the dominant/recessive gene options Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortie Posted April 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 Last time he breed with a common female there would have been a bit over 30 albino fry and 70 commons. So I'd say he would have that albino gene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daharkazangel Posted April 29, 2014 Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 It adds to the amount of mixed bn already available, making it harder to achieve 100% of one type of fry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tech Den Posted April 29, 2014 Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 That, plus if you paid more for say Albino and grew them up to breed or mixed in other Albino's, would you be disappointed if they breed and cheaper common BN's came out?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortie Posted April 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 Don't think comments like that need to be made mate. But get ur point cause I bought the adult pair of commons wanting to breed them then I find out I shouldn't cause of the males albino gene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mines bigger Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 Breed common to common, not common to albino, I have common colony throwing a small percentage of albino fry, but I have far too many to find out which are which Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daharkazangel Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 Don't think comments like that need to be made mate. But get ur point cause I bought the adult pair of commons wanting to breed them then I find out I shouldn't cause of the males albino gene. Enlighten me... your clearly breeding common cross albino. Get some good quality albinos, =100% albino fry, spread the love, problem solved. Just don't mix the pool if you can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daharkazangel Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 Or breed common with common, whatever floats your boat. I for one would be annoyed to buy albino, to throw a higher percentage of common fry. Good luck mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
th3f0rg0t3n Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 why does it matter when your talking a fish that is 60-80c and 80c-$1.20 , wouldn't you just be happy to have a few albino's along the line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortie Posted April 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 Yeah I thought it was cool that they through out some albino. [MENTION=5524]Daharkazangel[/MENTION] I'm not cross breeding anything intentionally i have a pair of long fin commons, short fin commons and albino in one tank until I get some more tanks setup. It's the male common that has got the albino gene in him as I have just found out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grant.long Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 I crossed a orange spot male with marble female and grew out the fry. The fry looked like common bn but had goldy and black strip finns. Since then the fry i grew up have breed and the fry batch were 50/50 albino and coloured. Will be interesting to see how they turn out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daharkazangel Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 why does it matter when your talking a fish that is 60-80c and 80c-$1.20 , wouldn't you just be happy to have a few albino's along the line? Yeah cause its ALL about the money.................. Stuff the quality of the species Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
th3f0rg0t3n Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 (edited) Yeah cause its ALL about the money.................. Stuff the quality of the species No of course it's not about money, that's why you dedicate separate tanks to breeding these particular fish by the 100's&1000's because you want to keep them ALL You do all this breeding just for the quality of the species right??? pfft @ you. Edited April 30, 2014 by th3f0rg0t3n Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yodapwnsasmurf Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 Breeding Albino with Albino will always produce albino fry no matter what the parentage so realistically, does it matter? Would you really care if you bred 2 commons and got 10 albino fry out of the 100 fry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
th3f0rg0t3n Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 Yes angel would care yoda, because you would be apparently "stuffing the quality of the species" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daharkazangel Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 Yes angel would care yoda, because you would be apparently "stuffing the quality of the species" Really??? .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daharkazangel Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 And we wonder why people hate hybrids. I love this hobby, but its all it is, a hobby. Shame i don't make my salary from it, or id care more. Right???.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepperbris Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 I accidentally lost a common female in my albino breeding tank. He had thrown 100% albinos till he found her. I got 1 batch of all commons out of the pair before I realised that she'd gotten through. Needless to say it took an hour to strip the tank and separate again. Never intended to sell the mixes so when they get picked off in the community tank I don't mind. But yeah. He'd never had a single common colouring until that point but that one batch was all common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tech Den Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 why does it matter when your talking a fish that is 60-80c and 80c-$1.20 , wouldn't you just be happy to have a few albino's along the line? Where do you draw the line? So if you paid $100 or $150 for Long Fin Albino and they were spitting out Long fin common or better yet if they were spitting out short fin common because someone wanted to pop a long fin albino and a short fin common together? 60c - $1.20 fish do not stay that price - someone along the way will pay more as they mature and sooner or later someone will want to breed them and end up getting a surprise mix. Its just good to try and avoid this where possible. It is very easy to get a mix out of spawn but ask someone like [MENTION=2388]Daydream[/MENTION] how long it took him to get albino longfin breeding true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortie Posted May 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 Why is it when you ask a simple question people assume the worst and get up you for some thing that is not intentional they just can't ask you is this what you are doing. I thought this is a hobbie where you come together as a community and talk fish not getting behind a computer and talk big. That's what i hate most about this site and why I don't like posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mines bigger Posted May 1, 2014 Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 You were offered helpful advice by passionate hobbyists who are trying to protect what they love, the way I see it, if you don't have enough tanks for individual species/colour you should remove the breeding log all together until you have the sufficient room to do so, my common colony is nearly 100 adults at the moment and as hard as I try they still produce some albino fry which to me is something frustrating and I am trying to stop, unfortunatly so far that is proving almost impossible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquaholic99 Posted May 1, 2014 Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 Unfortunately the aussie bristlenose are almost certainly all hybrids already. Compared to wild caught or captive overseas specimens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
