Paul Bingham Posted May 4, 2014 Report Share Posted May 4, 2014 I would like to know peoples opinions on this pair. I bought this pair as White Calvus. To me they look like Black Calvus but the yellow in the face confuses me because i see the yellow in the White Calvus. Anyway what does everyone think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldrag76 Posted May 4, 2014 Report Share Posted May 4, 2014 i reckon white for what it worth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
presto Posted May 4, 2014 Report Share Posted May 4, 2014 I'd go with black Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldrag76 Posted May 4, 2014 Report Share Posted May 4, 2014 White for sure tie breaker needed lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerbeer Posted May 4, 2014 Report Share Posted May 4, 2014 You can get variations in colour with size and wth tank conditions. I have heard of people selling paler coloured blacks as whites. I am leaning black...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch.0 Posted May 4, 2014 Report Share Posted May 4, 2014 White for me More dots than a black Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
presto Posted May 4, 2014 Report Share Posted May 4, 2014 My black fellas had just as many dots as these guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldrag76 Posted May 4, 2014 Report Share Posted May 4, 2014 as stupid as it sounds colour have bugger all to to with from what i have been told its all in the head shape and top lip shape the top lip kicks up slightly in whites .look closely you can see it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldrag76 Posted May 4, 2014 Report Share Posted May 4, 2014 its deff not a gold calvus LOLOLOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolften Posted May 4, 2014 Report Share Posted May 4, 2014 ...I'm with Bullrag, lil one is a blacky, biggie is a whitey...for a definite ID a close look at their swimming action is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Bingham Posted May 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2014 is there any sources of info around that tell you the scientifical differences? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatsright99 Posted May 5, 2014 Report Share Posted May 5, 2014 The dwarf calvus, sumbu is about the whitest. In one of ad konnings books a lot of compressiceps are calvus colouration. I'll dig it up when I get home for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerbeer Posted May 5, 2014 Report Share Posted May 5, 2014 The dwarf calvus, sumbu is about the whitest. In one of ad konnings books a lot of compressiceps are calvus colouration. I'll dig it up when I get home for you. Dwarf sumbu is a comp I believe. There is a good reference for the difference between comps and calvus, lots of good locality pictures. www.suephoto.com I also like her locality list www.suephoto.com. Anyhow I just noticed in the other tread [MENTION=54]HereFishieFishie[/MENTION] also says black along with picture of what a white should look like. There are lots of claims on telling whites, including things like fin dots. I think treat any purchase of whites with doubt until certain, or we will lose them. Same goes with Firefin comps, with colour fed golds, and crosses being sold as the real fish. unfortunately Altos are not an allowable import so we are stuck with what we have...... Steve http://www.qldaf.com/forums/african-cichlid-discussion-16/black-congo-white-pearl-calvus-pic-heavy-enjoy-100384/index3.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny@ageofaquariums Posted May 5, 2014 Report Share Posted May 5, 2014 I'd agree the larger ones a male and the smaller a female................ of some kind of fish. But the specifics I shall leave to others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Bingham Posted May 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2014 I'd agree the larger ones a male and the smaller a female................ of some kind of fish.But the specifics I shall leave to others. Thats right and there both calvus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny@ageofaquariums Posted May 5, 2014 Report Share Posted May 5, 2014 I dunno if they are calvus......... certainly some sort of flat fish.......... probably not discus......... could be monos or scats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Bingham Posted May 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2014 GINGERBEER. The second link is very helpful thanks. The third link I'm not sure what to think of it. The more I research Calvus with Australian sources the more I believe there isn't to many people who know much about them. Probly because with limited stock and cross breeding etc. No insult intended by that. I bought the Tanganyiks cichlids Ad Konings book today. The second link and Ad both show examples of Black Congo with yellow faces. I can't find WC whites with any yellow. Is there anyway to tell for certain? The last thing I want to do is sell on fry from bad stock or as the varriant that they are not. Thanks for your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aqc247 Posted May 5, 2014 Report Share Posted May 5, 2014 Calvin Harris...... do they have spots in the pelvic / ventral fins? Taken from Konings (199 Tang Cichlids in their natural habitat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatsright99 Posted May 5, 2014 Report Share Posted May 5, 2014 Here's more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatsright99 Posted May 5, 2014 Report Share Posted May 5, 2014 More text... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Bingham Posted May 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 [ATTACH=CONFIG]50719[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]50720[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]50722[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]50724[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]50725[/ATTACH]More text... Thanks for the pics. Which book is this? It seems to have a lot more info than the Tanganika back to the wild one i bought yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HereFishieFishie Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 (edited) Whites are leaner than blacks in the face... The spots on the female to, more of old school black markings Frenchy Edited June 9, 2015 by HereFishieFishie addition of info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HereFishieFishie Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 ps: & I don't like the yellow in the males head either... Frenchy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortie Posted June 10, 2015 Report Share Posted June 10, 2015 I have been looking for my self as I'm not convinced the whites calvus I got are white I think that they are blacks. So if have screen shot these two pic of youtube first one is alto calvus black and second is alto calvus chaitika the white dots are a lot bigger and fewer then the blacks. They both rock back and forth it's not just the whites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
